Thread: D4 with LLAMS height adjustor and MTR (19's)

Nice install

You have a tidy looking rig there..

Very nice indeed !!!

connock

I hadn't thought about mounting the switch there as that's where my driving light switch is located.

Some Llams questions.

I have looked at the Llams website but still not sure of some aspects of its use. Understand that it allows you to drive around at offroad height without the 50kph speed restriction (dropping you back to highway height).

What I am not clear on, is the Llams use in extended offroad height and super extended offroad height. The website implies you can manually select extended offroad height but a speed restriction applies - is this the case? and is the speed still 50kph?

Secondly does Llams allow you to select super extended off road height? Like you can with the standard system (after the computer has taken you into extended height after being hung up and tc activating) by playing around with brakes etc.

Thanks

Garry

Hi Garry,

The Llams unit is used to modify normal height and thus has no speed limitations imposed by the suspension system. As normal height is the baseline for all other heights, all other heights will be affected if the Llams unit is providing an adjusted normal height. If for example the LLams unit is set at +50mm, off-road height is also increased although not quite by the full 50mm, with off-road height about 90mm above normal height. The extra height provided by off-road mode will be cancelled above 50kph leaving only the Llams +50mm height. Another example is access height being approx 50mm lower than normal height but if Llams is set to -20mm at the same time then the vehicle will sit at about 70mm lower than normal, 20mm lower than the usual access height. Once moving, the vehicle will cancel access mode but cannot cancel the Llams adjusted normal height, so the vehicle will sit at 20mm below the usual height.

Graeme

Edit: Whilst extended mode can still be triggered, I would be wary about forcing super-extended mode in addition with even Llams +30mm as the vehicle will already be at least that high so use of that mode runs the risk of causing a suspension fault due to the shocks being fully-extended yet supposedly not. I understand that such a fault has occurred with shortened rods combined with extended or super-extended modes - it is just a fuction of reaching the limits of suspension travel regardless of how it is achieved.

Thanks Graeme,

I am not sure I follow it all - but thanks

One thing from what you have said indicates that the normal 50mm lift (you actually said it is a little less) by the Llams will actually provide less lift than the Offroad lift setting of the standard system which is 54mm.

Thanks

Garry

Hi Garry,
"50mm" is the same height that off-road height provides but as off-road height often doesn't reach the general specification of 55mm, I prefer to nominate a conservative measurement.

When Llams +50 and off-road mode are selected together, the total height increase is not quite double off-road height. I can only assume its caused by the different starting angle of the sensor arms that produces a non-linear height sensor signal. Llams +50 when in extended mode probably produces an even smaller height increase.

StornowaySA,
Excellent Position for the Llams Unit Switch.
Thank-you heaps.