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    [QUOTE=stig0000;1517320

    just think your self luck you dont own a tdv8 the most resent case was 21.1k[/QUOTE]


    christ that is an expensive mistake, where do you buy those misfueling devices ?

    George

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoWeb View Post
    christ that is an expensive mistake, where do you buy those misfueling devices ?

    George
    and i wish i was over exagerating,, but im not wev only had one customer pay by savings but all go on insurence clames,,

    i think the avg tdv6 is about 8-9k ish, now,, the price of the injecotors on tdv6s have droped a fear bit last i looked

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    A friend filled his TDV6 with petrol and drove off for a couple of kms - the ECU sensed something was wrong and shut the engine down. No damage to anything - just a complete fuel system flush,l change filters etc.

    The ECU shut the engine down , not the driver. So if the system worked for him - why not others? Or is it just profiteering and the usual changing for work and parts that do not need doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoWeb View Post
    christ that is an expensive mistake, where do you buy those misfueling devices ?

    George
    I got mine off Ebay, its "DieselKey UK" brand. This was the only one I could find for a D1 - I mentioned earlier it removes easily, it does, but it ends up wrecked.

    There are others for later Disco's that can be removed for large bowsers. Maybe even try LR for an OE D4 one if it fits.

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    I've just watched the video on the FuelSure site. That is a much better design than the Diesel Key. No cap to undo at the bowser and removed easily if need be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    A friend filled his TDV6 with petrol and drove off for a couple of kms - the ECU sensed something was wrong and shut the engine down. No damage to anything - just a complete fuel system flush,l change filters etc.

    The ECU shut the engine down , not the driver. So if the system worked for him - why not others? Or is it just profiteering and the usual changing for work and parts that do not need doing.

    Garry
    Garry,
    In all the vehicles we have had towed to us, we have NEVER seen an ecu shut the vehicle down. Not saying it will never or can't happen but just expressing what I have seen. It normally turns out to be a stumble from wrong fuel & the vehicle won't start again.
    The petrol normally damages the injectors, which in turns sprays metal fragments into the fuel system then damaging the high pressure fuel pump &
    other components.
    Hence the expensive bill as Stig has said.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniegy View Post
    The petrol normally damages the injectors, which in turns sprays metal fragments into the fuel system then damaging the high pressure fuel pump &
    other components.
    I suspect its the other way round. The lack of lubrication in the petrol quickly damages the HPFP which sends metal fragments to the injectors causing them to be damaged too. Contaminated surplus fuel would also be returned to the tank.
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    [QUOTE=sniegy;1517542]In all the vehicles we have had towed to us, we have NEVER seen an ecu shut the vehicle down. Not saying it will never or can't happen but just expressing what I have seen. It normally turns out to be a stumble from wrong fuel & the vehicle won't start again.
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    Hi Pete,

    Understand what you are saying - however he took on about 60l of petrol and drove off down the highway towing a horse float and little while later the D3 equivalent of the check engine light came on so he pulled over - as he stopped all the dash lights came on - indicating ignition on and engine off which it was.

    At that time the light came on with the driver - remembered it was petrol not diesel he had put in (not only his tank but a couple of jerries as well) so did not try a restart. Called the tow truck and off to the dealer - after a flush, clean, replace fliters etc all was OK - recently ran rough but just needed EGRs replaced. The D3 has 135,000km and regularly tows a horse float.

    I guess he was lucky.

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    Youd think surly.they could make a sys that senses petrol... but i guess just dont put petrol in.. the lid has a masive deasel.sticker and the cap has to and bright yellow...

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    Quote Originally Posted by stig0000 View Post
    Youd think surly.they could make a sys that senses petrol...
    I agree - now in the situation I indicated above the guy only has a Disco and has owned it four 4 years and in all that time has never put petrol in - just wasn't thinking.

    I don't put 2 stroke into my diesel (might start though) - now if you accidently put in petrol instead of diesel but you still put in your 200ml or so of 2 stroke would the injector pump still have a hissy fit sucking through 80% petrol, 19.5% diesel and .5% 2 stroke?
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