Thread: D4 Dies after first service....VERY unhappy camper!

Sounds like a classic case of why all engines should have dipsticks..

( am I right that the 3.0l has no dipstick )



Cheers Ean

He's a Prado owner....I don't believe a word he says.....

On his point about the one sensor failure being more parts replaced than he needed to in 8 years with the Prado......being an owner of a 3.0l D4 and having driven many Prados off and on road......I'd live with a few sensor changes.....LOL!!!

But seriously folks....

Is it possible that he didn't check the oil level at all when he picked the car up? As Ean Austral queried, yes the 3.0L has no physical dipstick and you can't check the oil with the in-dash monitor when the engine has been running, without waiting for 15minutes or so. If you check the oil cold, chances are it will tell you there has been an overfill...even if there hasn't.

So, it may have had no oil at oil or way too much and he would have been unable to tell....if he tried at all.

With regards to the type of failure you describe, I don't know enough about the engine to say which way is more likely. Would you get a restart, in fact several after seizing through there being no oil?

I understand his concern, that if the engine is still able to run and LR just fill it up and say, it's OK, no damage done....how do you fight that?...crappy position to be in.

At the end of the day, good practice or otherwise, legally the onus is not on him to check the oil or the serviceability of the car, LR have just carried out the service, it's their responsibility....it has to be! You'd think they'd be on the hook for a new donk, but I doubt that they will take that lying down.

That probably hasn't helped at all......sorry.

Hope it works out.

Kev.

no dipstick...is that right?

The thread title is misleading since it was the first "annual" service, nothing was given to say what kms travelled that year.
Speculation about oil is not really helpful, as there is nothing in the thread to say the problem was an oil issue in origin. Even if an engine over-fill, D4 hand book page 211 shows that warnings are given for oil too high and failure of oil level monitor itself, and for oil too low.
The thread is unhelpful with its emotional reference to "Christmas" lights. Hand book page 156 is clear on how to read engine warnings, including the 3 grades of warnings. Had there been an overfill both service-mechanic and driver would have had the lights and the chimes, so may be the post needs a few facts to help us start assessing possibilities .
Comment might have usefully focussed on why the sensor needed changing since the thread implies no monitor failure warning was present prior to service.

I agree with D4DISCO, when I first read the original poisting it all seemed a bit suspect to me (smells of a troll).
I then thought back to my next door neighbours parado that 2 weeks ago locked up on road in front of our house. 2 days later it was recovered by toyota and 4 days after that they said nothing was wrong? (the parado is 16 months old with 60K)
Some real facts without all the drama queen stuff would be helpful, if in fact it all happened as per the origanl post?

Originally Posted by D4disco

Speculation about oil is not really helpful, as there is nothing in the thread to say the problem was an oil issue in origin.

Who's trying to be helpful? Its a guessing game as to what might have caused such an event if it occurred at all. Furthermore, a diesel engine revving by itself after an oil change where the old oil can be removed without draining the sump and the oil level relies on a sensor which was said to be faulty, an overfilled sump is a possible cause. However the story may well be the result of someone trying to discredit the 3.0 engine.

Gday...

I have been a member of this forum for over a year and have found the information that comes from the 'wise heads' has been incredible - good depth of thought, drawing on experience - either their own or those they know - sensible wit delivered with good humour and generally a very good forum.

I am astounded at the responses this thread has received.

It seems the main response has been - "wake up stupid ex-Prado owner", "D4s have problems, live with it", "this thread is just BS and setting up D4 3.0L motor", "he should have checked the oil before he drove off" "Christmas tree lights - check the Owner's Manual dummy" ......... etc etc.

I find it unbelieveable the tone of dismissiveness and defensiveness of you all - it is so out of character to what I have seen from this forum.

I am sorry I asked. I guess I will just go back to being a 'watcher' and not try to get info.

John

If the engine ran away by itself and was blowing a lot of smoke ? It may be a turbo seal , this will pump sump oil into the intercooler and engine will then start running off this oil and you generaly cant stop it the engine may still be OK
new turbo and of coarse a intercooler flush

connock

Just a thourght