Thread: Kaymar Rear Bar

Hi Redback,
I've got a dual wheel carrier on my 2005 D3, same issues as others have mentioned. I've also got the LR tank installed, with the dual wheel carrier and the LR tank fitted there is now a lot of extra weight on the rear tyres. The tyres have been my biggest problem. I've got Cooper HT plus tyres on now they just aren't up to the job, If I run them soft on corrugations the side walls overheat, if I run them to hard they puncture. I'm thinking of going down the General Grabber AT tyre route next, these look like a better option. Trouble is I have only got 10k kilometres on them, having a dual wheel carier you now have to buy six...
Plus try finding someone willing to sell you one 18" rim... If you are thinking of fitting a LR tank make sure you do this first or you have to take the dual wheel carrier off to get the long range tank in. Also there are two bolts one on either side that have to be in for the dual wheel carrier before you fit the LR tank, if you forget to fit them (like I did) you have to take the LR tank out again to get them in, they go through the chassi rails from the inside to the outside.
Rear sensors, mine didn't work when I fitted the tow hitch never mind the rear wheel carrier. I bought a Hema navigator at the 4WD show, this came with a free reversing camera...........bonus.
Additionally, because I bought me vehicle in Canberra I had to take it over the pits in Perth, I thought fitting all ADR gear I wouldn't have a problem over the pits. I got pinged for no reversing lights being visible at 45 degrees to the centre of the vehicle and also no rear red reflectors visible at the rear. One was easy to fix the other not so easy.
I notice the extra weight when driving on sand, especially with the fridge fully loaded and my camper trailer on the back. Got quite stuck once, I'll put this down to my inexperience in my D3 it was my first time out and the sand was very soft.
Hope some of this helps.

Originally Posted by Nomad9

Hi Redback,
I've got a dual wheel carrier on my 2005 D3, same issues as others have mentioned. I've also got the LR tank installed, with the dual wheel carrier and the LR tank fitted there is now a lot of extra weight on the rear tyres. The tyres have been my biggest problem. I've got Cooper HT plus tyres on now they just aren't up to the job, If I run them soft on corrugations the side walls overheat, if I run them to hard they puncture. I'm thinking of going down the General Grabber AT tyre route next, these look like a better option. Trouble is I have only got 10k kilometres on them, having a dual wheel carier you now have to buy six...
Plus try finding someone willing to sell you one 18" rim... If you are thinking of fitting a LR tank make sure you do this first or you have to take the dual wheel carrier off to get the long range tank in. Also there are two bolts one on either side that have to be in for the dual wheel carrier before you fit the LR tank, if you forget to fit them (like I did) you have to take the LR tank out again to get them in, they go through the chassi rails from the inside to the outside.
Rear sensors, mine didn't work when I fitted the tow hitch never mind the rear wheel carrier. I bought a Hema navigator at the 4WD show, this came with a free reversing camera...........bonus.
Additionally, because I bought me vehicle in Canberra I had to take it over the pits in Perth, I thought fitting all ADR gear I wouldn't have a problem over the pits. I got pinged for no reversing lights being visible at 45 degrees to the centre of the vehicle and also no rear red reflectors visible at the rear. One was easy to fix the other not so easy.
I notice the extra weight when driving on sand, especially with the fridge fully loaded and my camper trailer on the back. Got quite stuck once, I'll put this down to my inexperience in my D3 it was my first time out and the sand was very soft.
Hope some of this helps.

Thanks for this, I was wondering about tyre wear, although having Coopers on I'm not surprised, Coopers just don't cut when pushed hard(this is from experience)

I'm not real worried whether the 2nd spare is the same as the others, as it will only be on there for the long trips, I don't do beach stuff very often, so no problems there.

I plan on fitting a rear work light that works when you select reverse, but I will also fit some extra reflectors also just in case.

As for rear parking sensors, I've survived 35yrs without them on other cars AND bikes so disabling these won't be a problem, the bolts I didn't know about, thanks for that tip.

Thanks for all your help on this, much appreciated

Baz.

Hi Redback,
I got my alignment checked by LR after fitting all the extras. I made sure I had a full load of fuel the fridge and all the other stuff I never need or use but might in the drawers.
There was a difference, albeit small. Me I wouldn't buy Coopers again, quite a few people in the 4WD club I belong to have moved away from Coopers. I have a bit of a thing for BFG and Mickey Thompsons, neither of which make an 18 inch tyre the right profile. Bit of a bugger..........

The Cooper ATR is a revised design and mine are holding out pretty well (265/60R18). Just completed the Canning Stock Route on them. No problems with overheating running them at 26psi.

If you don't mind going bigger, the Cooper Zeon LTZ 285/60R18 is a great all-round AT.

If you don't want Coopers for whatever reason, the 265/60R18 AT size is provided by Yokohama (AT/S), Goodyear (Silent Armor), Pirelli (ATR) and Continental (CrossContact AT).

Cheers,

Gordon

I have had mine fitted for almost 2 and a bit years and agree its a pain getting into the boot but I cannot stress how good having the extra protection at the back, I have a few deep scores on the bar where I know for a fact I would have lost the bumper

I have problems with the parking sensors but too lazy to fix it, I believe there is a fix with clear rubber pads from bunnings on a seperate post which I might try this time home

I also have the mitch hitch wich confuses the sensors again

Keep an eye on tyre wear as I had to replace 4 tyres shortly after fitting all the steel front and rear as I never thought of checking the alignment

I would reccomend the bar if you plan on doing a lot offroad as it will pay for itself in a few outings, I know mine has

G

Hi Garry,
Agree 100% about the payback. Interesting about the stick on patches, I spent hours rooting around with these, I tell you it isn't a case of being lazy, I would put this down as sensible, trying to figure out the angles of the cone as the signal comes out of the sensor, that is eight hours and a wasted RDO I will never get back............ Getting these right would be easier if the cone coming out was circular, from what I understand the signal is elliptical........ hence the reason they are at an angle in the bumper in the first place.
Wheel alignment is a must do, luckily I did this after fitting the steel work and the LR tank, saying that wearing out these Copers and getting rid would be a bonus right now.......

I ordered a rear bar and LR tank from ARB today.

I am just curious, if the D4 has auto leveling suspension, why would you need a wheel allignment after adding these accessories?

Obviously the car would be heavier, but would be sitting at the same height so the suspension geometry should also be the same.......yay or nay?

Originally Posted by Weird Al

I ordered a rear bar and LR tank from ARB today.

I am just curious, if the D4 has auto leveling suspension, why would you need a wheel allignment after adding these accessories?

Obviously the car would be heavier, but would be sitting at the same height so the suspension geometry should also be the same.......yay or nay?

I was going to ask this also and why all these problems with the parking sensors, why haven't Kaymar or ARB found a solution to this.

I might email Kaymar, see what excuse they have.

Baz.