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Hey BazQuote:
Originally Posted by Redback
I know how much trouble you had with your coopers, me too. But i thought i might give the new at3's a go since i live in a capital city and can screw them for warranty. In person the coopers look like they would be pretty good in the ruff stuff. There is just stuff all selection in our sizes. Im to scared to go anything thats illegal, seeing that this disco cost me more than the old weapon :)
Have you ever had a successful claim against this Company ?Quote:
Originally Posted by knotty7
I have nothing but praise for coopers, they are on 3 vehicles now including a Porsche Cayene and not a single issue.
I think main issue is with people who drive them at 100mp/h at 40 psi over rough terrain and than get delamination or chunks taken out.
Drive to suit the terrain and air down appropriately and most tyres will be great.
I have however had 100% satisfaction with that brand and Pirelli Scorpions also.
Fitted a set a GG AT today on a new D4 some pics..
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"A/T3 (All-Terrain) 70% Road & Sand, 30% Dirt & Mud"Quote:
Originally Posted by garrycol
70% is "mostly" in my opinion, sorry if I offended you Garry. Most of us spend 80-99% or more on road. The bit we spend off road is the most fun.
I have All Terrain on mine. I would like Mud Terrain or possibly coopers SST (if I can fit them) when I run my current 17 inch Mickey Ts down. The Mickey Ts came second hand with some unsuitable rims. I had to buy suitable rims to put them on. DOH. I admired a Melbourne Landrover gents very nice D4 which had 17 inch rims with a very nice looking Mud Tire one it. I agree it is harder with 18 inch or bigger rims. Knotty7 like many of us like checking with you gents to avoid making expensive mistakes with our tire choices.:)
Not offended at all - it is just that the start of your post sort of implied that the AT3s were of a Highway Terrain spec (I appreciate not actually said). I obviously misinterpreted what you were saying.
We all have the age old problem of tyre compromises. Most ATs are good enough to drive on the road - and indeed most H/Ts are good enough to drive in most offroad situations - the decision point is mud when neither are much chop but then in clay type mud - neither are muddies.
Decisions, decisions
Thats all well and good... Except.........:angel:Quote:
Originally Posted by big guy
ALL of the major failures I have seen of "That Brand Tires" have been:
1) On tyres less than 10,000km old
2) in one instance 1 tyre was 800km old the other brand new (was spare and then blew in 5km)
3) De laminated an entire strip off the tyre
4) Had never been off-road
5) Were traveling at under 110km/h at time of delamination
Of the other failures most were "bruising" under the sidewalls of hardly used, correctly inflated tyres...
I have never heard such reports in the quantity or failures of other brand tyres that I hear about "That Brand Tires"...
(And I bet this all gets back to them - Anything I say about them seems to!)
How long ago was all this happening with the Coopers Tombie?
I remember not that long ago when Hyundai's were considered as heaps of puss, but over the years they have improved and now are considered by the majority of people as being very good cars for their money.
Supposedly the AT3's are a totally new design so time will tell if they have the same issues as the older models. If mine do I will be the first to say so, but why not give these new models the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise?
cheers,
Terry
Last failure - 3 months ago - speared our head Geologist off the highway at 110km/h.. Was a RHF failure - Tyres were new only 2 weeks before.Quote:
Originally Posted by TerryO
Do some lovely exploration on Google for issues with them, in America that brand has some shocking tales of poor QA.
I dont give anything like a tyre the benefit of the doubt - its my only connection to the road.
Would you go back to "Brand X" Brake Pads if you had used them and they nearly killed you & your family??? I doubt it...
I think that would hold for most brands of any product, anywhere in the world!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tombie
I've have nothing but praise for the Coopers I've run on my vehicles, same with Mickey Thompsons. But my perception would obviously be different if I'd had issues. I've certainly _heard_ of issues with the older Cooper designs, but the new crop of ATR, AT3, LTZ and ST/Maxx all seem to perform well, at least as far as I've heard.
I _did_ have a bad run with BFG, and lo and behold - a Google search brought up 100's of complaints and issues.
Made me feel vindicated, but I'd be cautious about bagging the entire company without more un-biased evidence.
Cheers,
Gordon