Thread: D4 TYRE ROTATION

Originally Posted by Russrobe

Second this, tyre shops have told me to try avoid swapping left to right. Less to do with the wear you can see on the outside and more to do with the way those steel belts and cords have been binding together, in the same direction, over the last 10 000kms. Theory being you're increasing the likelihood of separation. .Albeit marginally, any increased chance is not welcomed.

This is the reason I only rotate 4 tyres front to back on the same side. Had a tyre delaminate going around a bend at about 90 kph after just passing another car. Luckily it was a 4 lane stretch of road and no other cars around. No fun at all and tore the mud flap off and stripped the inside of the wheel arch.

Martin

Originally Posted by letherm

This is the reason I only rotate 4 tyres front to back on the same side. Had a tyre delaminate going around a bend at about 90 kph after just passing another car. Luckily it was a 4 lane stretch of road and no other cars around. No fun at all and tore the mud flap off and stripped the inside of the wheel arch.

Martin

Oh thats nasty , happened to me on an old trailer yonks ago with crap tyres.
Do you know what caused the delamination?

Originally Posted by Kandy

Oh thats nasty , happened to me on an old trailer yonks ago with crap tyres.
Do you know what caused the delamination?

Hi Kandy.

It was a long while ago and I can't remember whether I had rotated the tyres before it happened. It was early on in the days of steel belted radials but it has stuck in my mind even though it is thought that the "problem" has supposedly been solved. Obviously some tyre fitters don't agree. Basically the steel belt lifts and causes the tyre to self destruct. There was no indication of failure whilst driving. However, in the caravan park where we were the night before the there was a slight bump but I couldn't see anything wrong. In hindsight it was a bulge in the tread being the start of the delamination process. We were on our way to QLD for a holiday up around about 100 kms south of Tweed Heads where we replaced the tyre. We ended up coming back via Kingaroy and down to Queenbeyan at which point all the other tyres were showing bulges in them Rather than take the chance of failure on the way back to Sydney I wrote the lot off and replaced them even though they had a lot of tread left. As we were on holidays I didn't pursue it with the manufacturer - too much trouble without the tyres to prove the point. I believe that it was not uncommon then. It's a personal choice but I'd rather keep running 4 tyres and keep the 5th as a permanent emergency spare and replace it if it shows signs of degradation. I am aware that tyres can age and keep this in mind.

Martin

You'll never see me do a 5 tyre rotation.

My tyres run forwards, bed in forwards and remaining in a position rolling the same direction the were originally installed.

Whilst there are claims it doesn't matter I have personally seen (and had) tyres start to seperate when placed into duty running the opposite direction to the original rotation.

Usually just throw the spare into the next round of tyres.. or just sell it off or dispose of it.. they're never more than 3 years old.

Originally Posted by Russrobe

Second this, tyre shops have told me to try avoid swapping left to right. Less to do with the wear you can see on the outside and more to do with the way those steel belts and cords have been binding together, in the same direction, over the last 10 000kms. Theory being you're increasing the likelihood of separation. .Albeit marginally, any increased chance is not welcomed.

If that was the case then why would tyre manufacturers still suggest it as an option?:
Tyre Rotation - Bridgestone Australia
https://www.coopertires.com.au/media...es-extract.pdf

Must get around to doing mine.
I have 6 to play with,want to wear them out as I may go up a size for the next set.
Andrew

Originally Posted by shanegtr

If that was the case then why would tyre manufacturers still suggest it as an option?:

Tyre Rotation - Bridgestone Australia

https://www.coopertires.com.au/media...es-extract.pdf

Land Rover and other brands also say "sealed for life"...

Doesn't make it the best idea!

Fair point, but a failed mechanical component would be unlikely to result in litigation issues (particularly in the US) compared to a failed tyre in the event of a serious failure.




Either way, I rotate all 6 of my tyres every 10,000km. Tyres get crossed over during rotations as well. I've been doing this to all my cars and never had a delamination - had plenty of punctures however......