Another option that people might consider:
EASControl for Land Rover - GAP Diagnostic
Admittedly not as convenient for height changes as LLAMS (but quite a bit cheaper), and definitely easier/cleaner than changing rods.
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						Another option that people might consider:
EASControl for Land Rover - GAP Diagnostic
Admittedly not as convenient for height changes as LLAMS (but quite a bit cheaper), and definitely easier/cleaner than changing rods.
Yeah ,nice system ,just leaves out the best thing about LLAMS,the speed over-rides !!
gedaso,
400HPONGAS has a point..pity.. also doesn't mention D4
I have GOE rods. I remove the LR rods,install the GOE rods. This takes longer than leaving them on all the time, but once on, switching from normal to off road height is a cinch. in 5 minutes you can have all four corners adjusted.
Changing back to the LR rods doesn't take as long as they are easy to get back on, it's the removing the LR rods that takes time. GOE rods easy either way.
I drove mine on the off road setting over the christmas period for about 7 days, mostly short trips and tops 50kms @ speed limit of 100kph. No issues.
I'm interested in the camber of the rear wheels when lifted & uneven wear (outer) on the rear tires, is this common?
If you're driving 1000's of km on bitumen with the car lifted, you'll notice increased wear due to the (mis) alignment. I drove 2200km on dirt/sand lifted with no noticeable wear.
The GOE rods are designed to allow rapid change-over of height settings. Thus there is no reason to stay at lifted heights unnecessarily - unless of course, you have tyres so oversize that you can't drive at normal heights.
Cheers,
Gordon
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						I didn't think LLAMS had speed overrides ???
The EASControl device lets you store 3 different height adjustments, pretty much like LLAMS, but you don't have a simple switch to change between them (you use the speed control buttons to select them from a menu). But yes, unfortunately no option at this stage for the D4.
The slightly-more-expensive bigger-brother device (IIDTool) lets you also read and clear faults in many of the electronic modules, reset the service indicator, and they are also considering the possibility of letting people modify the speeds at which height changes occur...
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						You might want to confirm by how much the heights can be adjusted. That device appears to be a more user-friendly way of achieving what Faultmate can do yet my understanding is that Faultmate is constrained by the suspension ecu only allowing a maximum variation of 25mm. 25mm is better than no change but its not off-road height.
Rewriting the suspension ecu's eprom every time a height change is made shouldn't be a problem as eproms can usually be rewritten around 1 million times before the memory locations wear out and are no longer updated. However my understanding is that incomplete writes due to a hiccup can leave the ecu only partially updated and possibly unusable due to a checksum error. Perhaps someone who provides ecu updates can comment further.
Llams doesn't over-ride speed limitations as it doesn't alter anything in the suspension ecu. It provides the other heights whilst still at LR's normal height thus effectively providing a work-around for the speed limitations, the same as shorter height sensor link rods. Llams has the extra capability to provide off-road height whenever any ABS-reported fault triggers the suspension to lower to its safe height of about access height.
MY21.5 L405 D350 Vogue SE with 19s. Produce LLAMS for LR/RR, Jeep GC/Dodge Ram
VK2HFG and APRS W1 digi, RTK base station using LoRa
well so far so good, ive done over 2000k's since my rods arrived, all at extended height. i have to run this height as in running 275 60 R18's and the touch on the rear sometimes round town. touring with the camper on and full normal height is no good for me, to low, to soft, at extended height (more air bag pressure) the car handles so much better.
as for tyre ware, im looking close at all tyres, but only time will tell. there is deffinatly a reduction in caster as the steering got a little more light and twitchy.
cheers phil
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