Thread: D3 Transfer case oil $80 a litre!

and I wouldn't use anything but the specced fluid until I know more as the t/case uses a wet clutch LSD.

The fluid may be a as simple as a synthetic UTTO or similar, NV in North America pretty much always used to use ATF's in their t/cases, but this one is built by Steyr in Austria (Magna bought Daimler, Steyr-Puch years ago too) and so what would it's parentage be ?

Anyway, here's a simple spec sheet in a PDF.

Simple spec sheet allright !
Says nothing ,but use the Shell stuff thats unobtainable ,but comes in cute little Landrover plastic bottles. Looks like the stealers win !!

HOw much did the car cost? and people winge about a few bucks for oil seriously how often do you change it, its not like its every week. If you cant afford the oil you cant afford the car.

My 2 cents worth
Cheers

Originally Posted by tomisawesome

turbo diesel mazda passenger cars must have Genuine Mazda oil used during service, or void all engine warranty claims. Penrite make a suitable oil, but Mazda will still refuse to warranty the engine unless you use their oil.

same with late model Jeep transmissions, without getting into Holden 6 speed auto fluids. and then you move into the Castrol book listing the wrong diff fluid for VT onwards LSD diff's. should be a fully synthetic oil, only recomends LSX90.

If your D3 is out of warranty, give penrite a call. they make a lot of weird and wonderful oils, from Honda CRV diff oil, to Honda Power Steering fluid, and they even make power steering fluid for Mini's (no one stocks it, but its listed in the catalogue)

They can stipulate you use a specific oil even if it is available only thru Mazda to maintain warranty, what they can't do is say you must only take the vehicle to them and you must buy the oil from them.
If you take it for service outside the dealer but inside warranty period, the mechanic is well within his legal right to carry out the work but must adhere to any specific requirements.




Using Capitals, the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse or helping your uncle jack off a horse...

Originally Posted by Piddler

HOw much did the car cost? and people winge about a few bucks for oil seriously how often do you change it, its not like its every week. If you cant afford the oil you cant afford the car.

My 2 cents worth
Cheers

The point is less about the cost of the oil but more about of the lack of alternative suppliers and competition to keep prices reasonable.

Garry

This is not just limited to oil. While it does seem like restrictive practices it is the companies investment in the technology. They then sub contract someone to supply to their spec and the formula or part is licensed to be made by said company for the buyer.
It sucks yes, but until patents lapse, that is the way it is and it is only going to get worse. Part of the reason I would not buy a D3 or 4 atm.
Same thing is done by most major companies. Honda do it with bearing. Timken make the bearings, have them sitting on the shelf but can not sell them to you. They seel them to Honda for $17ea and then Honda sell them to me for $140.
This is why it is best to buy a global based vehicle with old technology.
This is partly why Holden do so well, easy to get cheap parts and consumables.

Holden are doing so well ...are they? ...



cheers,
Terry

and GM did the same with Dexron VI, there were no licensed alternatives for a while.

If demand is there someone will reverse engineer the fluid (or a statute of limitations will run out and Shell will offer it)

[edit] BTW, has anyone bothered ringing Karcraft or BMI ?
They probably bring it in from the UK for substantially less than LRA. I know that a number of Land Rover dealers used to buy their genuine parts from either company rather than pay through the nose from the old PAG.