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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    Retrofitting to a point so it operates the same as Landrover intended is possible but not realistic - surely an e-diff could be physically installed and rigged up to be manually controlled, not computer controlled. Afterall the diff responds to electrical signals from the relevant ECU. Wiring and a manual switch that has it either full on or full off should be possible.

    Wish I had the money to buy a second hand unit and see if it would work.

    Likewise I am sure a smart machinist like Ashcrofts could develop an airlocker that could be installed with the standard diff - a diff is a diff.

    Garry
    From what I have seen and read the actuating motor is a stepper motor not a DC motor. So you would require an appropriate stepper motor controller to drive the motor and know how many steps are required to lock the diff.

    It would appear the the computer varies the amount of locking (clutch slip)and does not just go from 0 - 100% lock up on the clutch.
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    I have one in the D3 and have seen the picture of the front and rear diffs pop up between the Tacho/Speedo when it cuts in while crawling in rocky conditions and a wheel lifts off into the air.
    Vehicle certainly does progress easily in those precarious situations when it appears as it has stopped momentarily when rock climbing before it has cut in, but I have not driven a D3 without it so would not tell how easily a non fitted D3 would get up.
    I think there is a clip on YouTube showing the difference between vehicles getting up a hill. The e-diff did get further but there was not much in it, whether it is worth the extra money would be an individual decision.
    If you take the vehicle places that you do not mind dents from rock climbing, like Mitchell Plateau etc, then the extra ability may be worth it IMHO. If you don't get into those predicaments, I wouldn't bother.
    I like it and would order another personally, if it saves me using the winch and staying in the drivers seat (air-con), it is worth it to me.

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    There is a very good writeup on DISCO3.CO.UK on converting a standard vehicle to run the e-Diff.

    M

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    And here it is

    Here are the first lot of attachments for the job, one more to come
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    Last edited by dominicbeirne; 1st February 2012 at 09:56 PM. Reason: Deleting quoted text

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    and here it is - final

    final attachment

    Thanks to Spooky on disco3club.co.uk

    Here is the link http://www.disco3club.co.uk/phpbb/vi...t=943&start=20
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    I just wanted to update my response as there was debate on the locking diff. I have confirmed that the e-diff is a true locking diff.

    It is either engaged, or not engaged. when it is engaged, it is a true locker. The clutch plates in the differential are designed to minimize damage to the axle and prevent damage particularly during engaging and disengaging. It is theoretically possible for slip to happen, but not when fully engaged, by design, the clutch plates will never need replacement.

    Presently there is an e-diff ready differential, which can be fitted to a non locking vehicle. You can later add the bit of kit to make it operational. The e-diff ready differential is heavier duty than then non-locking differential, and will be quieter, smoother and last much longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unseenone View Post
    I just wanted to update my response as there was debate on the locking diff. I have confirmed that the e-diff is a true locking diff.
    Maybe someone needs to tell the guys in LandRover...

    ISTR that the last time we spoke about this the answer came back that it isn't... but due to the nature of the beast, it behaves like it does.

    I'll ask the question again & see if I can get the ear of one of the techie guys.

    M

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    [QUOTE=unseenone;1628990]
    .....the clutch plates will never need replacement.

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    I can't speak on this for sure but I just got a new rear diff, it would seem that the old e-diff will not allow the Actuator to engage and align itself. The reason would apprear to be that the clutches will not allow the actuator to engage. It is either that this is the reason or that something else is not moving or willing to move to allow the alignment. Techs best guess is that the clutch plates are frozen or that the flywheel is.

    The diff had been overheated and the following day, after startup the traction reduced warning came on.

    Just what i know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unseenone View Post
    Presently there is an e-diff ready differential, which can be fitted to a non locking vehicle. You can later add the bit of kit to make it operational. The e-diff ready differential is heavier duty than then non-locking differential, and will be quieter, smoother and last much longer.
    Is the e-diff ready differential a normal e-diff with some parts missing, implying that the e-diff is stronger than the standard open diff?
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    Quote Originally Posted by unseenone View Post

    It is either engaged, or not engaged.
    This description doesn't seem quite right? The purpose of the stepper motor is to facilitate a varying degree of lock, ie in certain TR programs some slip is allowed.

    Cheers,

    Gordon

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