Thread: 9,500lbs Rough Rider winch D4. Advisable?

I did Buy one and fitted it to a 1999 Discovery. As they say change the grease, (which I did).
Very happy with it.

Thanks originally thought about fitting it to the 6X6 defender, but that is likely to go over a GVM of 4.3 Tonne, so a bit under-rated for the task.

This D4 option has only come up this week, (yesterday in fact ).

Will still need to buy a winch bar first.

Hi Diana - would probably be OK but given the weight of a D4 realistically about 2.7t with fuel and a little bit of gear let alone what a loaded up D4 would weigh bogged down to its chassis I personally would go to a 12,000Ib - however as you already have the winch I would try it but be aware it might be a bit light on in some circumstances.

Just my thoughts.

Garry

Originally Posted by garrycol

Hi Diana - would probably be OK but given the weight of a D4 realistically about 2.7t with fuel and a little bit of gear let alone what a loaded up D4 would weigh bogged down to its chassis I personally would go to a 12,000Ib - however as you already have the winch I would try it but be aware it might be a bit light on in some circumstances.

Just my thoughts.

Garry

9,500 lbs winch using a snatch block = 19,000 lbs. I doubt many D4s are that heavy!

Originally Posted by Larry

9,500 lbs winch using a snatch block = 19,000 lbs. I doubt many D4s are that heavy!

Good point.

Depending on the number of turns on the drum 9,500ibs is the best it can manage - in use actual pull will be less. Also with 28m of rope/wire on the drum in some circumstances a snatch block may not be able to be used - yes I appreciate a winch extension strap can be used. Why not use two snatch blocks then a 6000lb winch could be used. Without an extension strap looking at a max of 14m pull.

By way of example on my last winch in anger (in my 101) I had to use a single pull, 54m of cable plus 20m of winch extension cable. So there are circumstances where a double pull may not be possible.

But as I said in my other post - fit the 9,500 and be aware of the limitations - and I agree that would be using a double pull wherever you can.

Garry

Originally Posted by garrycol

Hi Diana - would probably be OK but given the weight of a D4 realistically about 2.7t with fuel and a ...little bit of gear let alone what a loaded up D4 would weigh bogged down to its chassis I personally would go to a 12,000Ib - however as you already have the winch I would try it but be aware it might be a bit light on in some circumstances.

Just my thoughts.

Garry

Hi Garry

Those were my thoughts exactly, I rarely use the winch on the front of my classic and this winch was an impulse buy as I was in the store. At $300 you couldn't walk past it could you?

The winch has a rating of the D4 + 50% so there is a little margin and I have a sheave block in the classic so one for the D4's very sensible.

The bar and dual battery system will be the big expenses.

(All this fancy stuff on the D4 is hard to cope with!)

Diana

Are you actually wanting a bar?? A winch can be fitted without one with the genuine fitting kit - was an option for the D3 not sure about the D4.

I assume you have read all the posts about the cheap winches - I guess the key is to pull it apart - put decent grease in it, tighten all the nuts and bolts (locktight or something similar) and to replace any "mild steel" bolts where clearly high tensile should have been used.

Edit - just checked the Landrover Aust website - winch is an option - is 9500lb so your 9500ib should be OK - the mounting kit should be able to be sourced from all the usual suspects in Aust for a fortune or only half a fortune from O/S.

Garry

If you want a good solution, I would seriously consider the D44 discrete winch mount. It will leave your look intact, and strengthen your winching abilities over a lot of winch trays.