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    D3 EPB Dash Indicator Flashing

    I'm on my way to Cape York and now parked at Wepia taking a break from the dust and corrugations. Twice in the last couple of days before Weipa, while driving in dusty (bull dust) conditions, I got the EPB indicator flashing on the dash along with the message 'PARK BRAKE OFF LIFT SWITCH TO APPLY'. When we stop and set the brake, the message clears. The owner's manual states this means that an emergency release operation is detected.

    There have been no other indications, the brake works correctly when applied and only seems to make normal set and release noises. Has anyone else experienced this? Is it a show-stopper? I have about another 2000km to go before getting back to the black top.

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    Bob

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    Have had that happen a lot with my old D3.. Not with my current d4.. caused by dust. When the light flashed on a Simpson Desert trip for safety sake I stopped using it altogether.last thing you want is an EPB failure out there.. Put a bit of tape over the EPB switch and just used park on the transmission.. No probs doing this.
    The light flashing may not be a show stopper but I wasn't prepared to take the chance with mine.

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    EPB fault

    ... and my 2005 TDV6 had similar trouble after driving from Melbourne to the Pilbarra via the Tanami Track and the Gibb River Road. By the time the car had been driven through multiple creek crossings on side trips from the Gibb River Road on the return trip and then back to Melbourne along the black top the problem had gone.

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    Thanks. It's all moot now anyway as the air suspension system speared in. I had to do about 20km of the the northern section of the Old Telegraph Track in access height. Made for an interesting 5 river/creek crossings that's for sure. Got a ride on the back of a truck to Bamaga and am hoping to find out if it's repairable this morning. If not, boat ride to Cairns for the Disco.

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    Bob

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    Oh bugger, any idea what's happened? How old is the car and has the compressor been replaced ever?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobzed57 View Post
    Thanks. It's all moot now anyway as the air suspension system speared in. I had to do about 20km of the the northern section of the Old Telegraph Track in access height. Made for an interesting 5 river/creek crossings that's for sure. Got a ride on the back of a truck to Bamaga and am hoping to find out if it's repairable this morning. If not, boat ride to Cairns for the Disco.

    Cheers

    Bob
    Bobby - That is not good. Maybe you can get Gordon (gghaggis) to send you one of these kits. Products: EAS kits

    Did you get around to fitting LLAMS? If so will that not raise it??

    So is the issue suspension ECU (LLAMS may fix), hardware failure as in a bag or plumbing or is it a compressor issue.

    I hope all goes well.

    Garry

    Oh did you replace those incandescent stop and tail lights globes with LEDs like I suggested? (I still have to do mine). Check the incandescent globes as they can cause suspension faults if blown - likewise pull out the stop light switch on the brake and clean it all up - better still replace if you have a spare.
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    Not sure what the problem might be. All I get is the orange air suspension symbol and maybe occasionally a message saying vehicle raising slowly, which it never does. The guy at Bamaga has run the codes and thinks it's electrical as the compressor runs for about 15 seconds and then shuts down. I understand he's been in contact with the Cairns dealer to get info on what some of the codes might mean, no joy so far. I've put the acid on LR assist and I believe they've contacted the Bamaga fellow, but nothing heard back.

    The vehicle is a Apr 09 build D3, with 75k on the clock, no LLAMS, serviced regulary and only four days before we left for this trip. No compressor issues previously. Interstingly, I was chatting to a bloke at Bramwell Junction and he had a well tricked up D4 and he asked me how any compressors I'd been through and he was surprised when I said none. As an aside his vehicle in the same shop having damaged a CV joint on a local beach.

    The worst bit is all the clever-dick Toyota owners taking the Michael as my D3 went past on the truck. I guess from a brand perspective, it would be better if LR helped some of these remote repairers out a bit as I'd prefer to get back on the road than have the car go to Cairns on a truck.

    Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobzed57 View Post
    Not sure what the problem might be. All I get is the orange air suspension symbol and maybe occasionally a message saying vehicle raising slowly, which it never does. The guy at Bamaga has run the codes and thinks it's electrical as the compressor runs for about 15 seconds and then shuts down.
    Bob
    That might mean the dessicant in the compressor has sucked up all the moisture it can and is blocked - might be worthwhile taking it out and putting it in the camp oven for a while to heat the moisture out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    Bobby - That is not good. Maybe you can get Gordon (gghaggis) to send you one of these kits. Products: EAS kits

    Did you get around to fitting LLAMS? If so will that not raise it??

    So is the issue suspension ECU (LLAMS may fix), hardware failure as in a bag or plumbing or is it a compressor issue.

    I hope all goes well.

    Garry
    Note that neither the shortened rods nor LLAMS will be of any use if you have a fault that drops you to the bump-stops. If it's a fault that limits remedial action to dropping to access height then yes, they'll give you an added advantage of being up around or above normal on-road height.

    The GOE EAS kit will work to get you out in all situations, as long as the air-bags are intact.

    Cheers,

    Gordon

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    Garry

    I wouldn't be surprised if it was related to moisture. I opened the cover of the compressor when I got back to camp before the vehicle was towed to Bamaga. The compressor housing was soaking wet (no surprises there) and it looked like it had never been off in its life. I took about a cup of grit and gravel out of the noise deadening material and the colour of the material was different to anything we'd been seeing up here, so I suspect nothing was ever checked irt to compressor.

    We're getting the royal run around from LR Assist, Alianz and NRMA at the moment, they're happy to shift the car, but we're snookered with the trailer and ourselves. I suspect I'm going to have to walk out with the trailer on my back. It's been a very disappointing experience all around.

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