Thread: Llams or Rods, which one and why?

Rods.

Cheap. easy to fit, low tech, no mods to the vehicle....and they work well.

Llams,
Simplicity & ease of use.
Install once & dial up when you need it.

Good luck

I do like the fact that llams is installed once with no need to do anything further but I also like the fact that with the rods it can be put back to standard and no holes or marks are left, this s my dilemma. Does anyone out there regret getting one over the other and why?

Cheers
Julian

Don't base your decision on whether the mod will leave any holes or not. Given the build up you are planning a hole here or there is of little consequence. If you are setting up a off road tourer it will get scratched and dented and when you onsell it you won't be restoring it to "on road only" condition anyway.

I haven't got either but I've seen Llams being installed and then in action. I was impressed with the relative simplicity of the install and what could be done with it.

I had a air line fail in my D3 near the front passenger side which resulted in the rear dropping down to the bump stops. I was on a drive above the snow line at the time and could not raise the rear. I don't think rods or Llams would of helped in this situation or even the EAS system. A bumpy and crunching ride back down the hill but the car made it.

If money isn't a problem I'd install Llams. All you are risking is a small chance of a warrantly claim being denied if it can be reasonably shown the problem was caused by the Llams. Alternatively, start with the rods and swap them out for llams when the car is out of warranty.

No option for me... Llams all the way.

Everyone says rods are easy to install, or remove... they are chaeper, but my time, or comfort is worth more. Maybe im lazy but I have had many trips in the wet, mud, snow, etc and I can tell you I hate airing up my vehicle, so having to get in to the wheel well or under the vehicle is not something I would consider convenient.

It costs more, but the flexibility is very valuable. Would have regretted getting the rods having now experienced Llams.

If the Llams switch is put in the blank behind a D3's EPB switch then a new blank can be purchased at very little cost when its time to remove a Llams to fit to the next vehicle. Its not so easy with a D4 unless the driver's side accessory power outlet spot is utilised. There are more fundamental reasons to choose one over the other.

Edit. I'm too slow - already covered by Ashes.

Llams is great.
I had it in my D3 & will fit to my D4.

You also have to remember that this is cheap compared to traditional spring lifts, the added advantages are:
1. Flick of a switch operation.
2. Raise
3. Lower
4. Normal

So quite literally you can come out of deep snow & on to high speed gravel roads or off the beach on to bitumen.

One thing I found with my OME lifted Prado was that while the lift improved the handling no end it did make it harsher.

Llams gives you the lift when required & then allows the original settings to be restored.

Cheers

Chuck

The thing I like with my rods is that I'm not playing with the complicated computers. Just one less thing to cause an error / inconvenience when I'm out bush.

Personally I find them easy as to swap over between settings. I just use a towel to put over the wheel before I reach in so I don't get dirty and all done in no more than 10 sec per wheel. You only need to change these when your going off road, and when your finished, i do mine at the same time when adjusting tyre pressures.

Good luck, both options are great so you can't do wrong.