Thread: Wavering ... ???

Originally Posted by CaverD3

Which laws?

Effectively same effect as VSI 50? Plenty still being modified with supension (Playdoughs, 200s, Pajeros, D3 coilers) all have stability control.

Yes essentially the same. New VSB 14 in Victoria.

ESC is now mandatory in Vic and will be (or is) Australia wide.

So only in Vic?

Does it just need angineers cert?

Originally Posted by oldsalt

I did a favour for a friend today ... and it could be very costly - I dropped her at the local VW dealer where she had had her Golf in for a service...and while I was there I thought it wouldn't hurt to have a look in the showroom (first mistake), and a few minutes later I was sailing down the road in a new Amarok dual cab ute with the new eight speed auto .... boy it's a nice package !!!! BUT the thing (or things) that really caught my eye were that it had a real handbrake and grab handles on the "a" pillar to assist when getting in the vehicle. Little things I know BUT they are things I miss on my D3 .... so I definately have put the VW on my list as a possible replacement for the D3 ... and did I mention that it comes with 16" steel wheels or 17" - 18" - or 19" alloys .... I'm wavering

We have an Amarok(daughters car) you would be hard pressed to drive a better 4WD, they carry a tonne without a problem, it's barely noticable, tows our camper like it isn't there, offroad it is amazing, we love it.

Get one, you will not be disappointed

Baz.

Originally Posted by Redback

We have an Amarok(daughters car) you would be hard pressed to drive a better 4WD, they carry a tonne without a problem, it's barely noticable, tows our camper like it isn't there, offroad it is amazing, we love it.

Get one, you will not be disappointed

Baz.

As good as a D4?

No.

It is a great truck, best of the utes. But I think the D3/4 is a much better ride and more relaxing.

Looked at the manual and the Challenger auto but could not bring myself to downgrade.

Have also Looked at the Amorak Ultimate very impressive. My only oncern and one that is continually highlighted to me is that they are unproven from the engine longevity.
2.0 twin turbo pulling the weight it does, means the engine is working harder than it should all the time. Basically at 100,000ks are you up for two new turbos, or more? A smaller engine havin to work harder is bound to suffer in the long term, god knows why hey did not put the 3.0l toureg engine in it.

This feedback on the engine has come from a couple of mechanics I know who specialise in Patrols, and refer to the 3.0 l patrol engine and it's documented history of being underpowered and their tendency to go bang after a certain amount of k's.

The only other thing for me is they are asking a premium price over their competitors in an unproven car in the Aus market.

Originally Posted by rmp

The very latest laws now make it in effect illegal to modify any vehicle with stability control.

You mean modifications affecting handling, or anything at all? And does that extend to tyre size, tread pattern and construction?

Originally Posted by JayBee75

Have also Looked at the Amorak Ultimate very impressive. My only oncern and one that is continually highlighted to me is that they are unproven from the engine longevity.
2.0 twin turbo pulling the weight it does, means the engine is working harder than it should all the time. Basically at 100,000ks are you up for two new turbos, or more? A smaller engine havin to work harder is bound to suffer in the long term, god knows why hey did not put the 3.0l toureg engine in it.

This feedback on the engine has come from a couple of mechanics I know who specialise in Patrols, and refer to the 3.0 l patrol engine and it's documented history of being underpowered and their tendency to go bang after a certain amount of k's.

The only other thing for me is they are asking a premium price over their competitors in an unproven car in the Aus market.

Is it fair to compare a Euro and a Jap engine? My understanding is that the Euro's are light years ahead in build quality and design. That's gotto count in their favour hasn't it?

Also wasn't the point of the Patrol being underpowered being the problem...is the VW underpowerd or just undersized...LOL!!!

As I said, I'm speculating.

Is this the first time this engine has been used or just in this set-up? I've got a 510nm twin turbo 4cyl diesel in a Merc, I think that engine has been around for a while....so maybe it's not so uncommon in German or Euro marques. 510nm is definately not underpowered!

Cheers,

Kev.