Thread: 3.0 Turbo Reliability

My D4 also recently had the modified turbo oil grallery drain installed by LR Newcastle as I mentioned that a small amount of smoke (other than the usual black diesel smoke) had been noticed. I believe that the drain now returns the oil to the crankcase above the fill level of the oil.

Lou...

Originally Posted by ~Rich~

2: What will happen 10yrs and longer down the track with all these difficult to access turbo vehicles? People will not find it financially viable to repair these vehicles. This no doubt will dramatically affect the resale value of the model(s)

Cheers Rich

It's not just turbo's,there are heaps of things that cost thousands to fix on these vehicles.

Also what about all these software upgrades?

Does that mean for the life of the vehicle it keeps having to go to the dealer regularly for them?Can't imagine the dealer will be too interested doing a software upgrade on a 10yr plus old vehicle,or trying to even find the correct upgrade.

just my 2 cents worth.

Originally Posted by Sleeping Wood

I have searched and come up with the TSB it is LTB00487v3 3.0 TDV6 Excessive exhaust smoke.
That's the technical service bulletin title, anyone know where I can get a copy to have a read, despite lots of google I cant locate it on-line.

Sleeping Wood, you can get all this from topix. You will need to sign up and pay a fee (time based) to get access to the TSB's.:

TOPIx - TOPIx

Originally Posted by scarry

Does that mean for the life of the vehicle it keeps having to go to the dealer regularly for them?Can't imagine the dealer will be too interested doing a software upgrade on a 10yr plus old vehicle,or trying to even find the correct upgrade.

Updates are automatic by VIN so as long as LR continues to provide updates for specific older models they will be available. However I would expect dealers to charge for applying the updates especially if not having the vehicle serviced at the same time, but probably even then because of the extra labour time and their investment in the diagnostic equipment.

Originally Posted by Sleeping Wood

I have searched and come up with the TSB it is LTB00487v3 3.0 TDV6 Excessive exhaust smoke.
That's the technical service bulletin title, anyone know where I can get a copy to have a read, despite lots of google I cant locate it on-line.

Perhaps someone who has access can confirm this is indeed for the drain change and post it up as I'd like to know how complicated it is to do the modification. I find it embarrassing to drive a 3 yo vehicle that blows oil smoke even if it only occurs occasionally - blowing fuel smoke is bad enough.

Originally Posted by Graeme

Updates are automatic by VIN so as long as LR continues to provide updates for specific older models they will be available. However I would expect dealers to charge for applying the updates especially if not having the vehicle serviced at the same time, but probably even then because of the extra labour time and their investment in the diagnostic equipment.

OK,but many of us,for whatever reason, use independent specialists to service these vehicles,therefore would not get the updates,and in some,if not many cases wouldn't even know there was an update available/needed.

I can see it becoming a good money spinner for the dealers,and more than likely a PITA for the vehicle owner once it is out of warranty.

After lots of reading on the DISCO3.co.uk site this post sums up the problem DISCO3.CO.UK - View topic - There IS a problem with MY 3.0 litre TDV6 engine

There is a post on page 9 that describes what is being fitted..
"My smokey motor has gone in to Puntland for its 3rd visit for this issue today, to have the pipe fitted.

I have seen the pipe, it is a Jaguar part, number C2Z9795 made in the Czek Republic. It is about 8 inches long, about 3/4 inch in diameter, bent about 90 degrees in the middle, with a crenelated zone (concertina effect) around the curve, pale grey alloy, with a flange on each end, one being oval with two bolt holes and one being pear shaped with one bolt hole. I did not spot a one-way valve. A google search says it is a Jaguar Tube Drain.

There was also what appeared to be a blanking plate, oval with two bolt holes.
List price is about £30."

Would be nice to know hat the TB says... few phone calls next week I think.

I don't expect any more updates to my vehicle now that its out of warranty. Indeed, I wish the last gearbox s/w update done at the final warranty service hadn't been applied, having effectively deleted a feature that existed when the vehicle was purchased.