3l D4 Starter Motor Failure

I had a squiz at what was involved in removing the starter in order to remove the main power cable to fit a fuse en-route to the alternator. I will cut the wire in-situ to fit a fuse holder because it looks to be too much work.

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Originally Posted by minibloodhound

I have the 2.7 D4 but my starter motor failed in Bamaga after driving it up along the old tele track. Luckily I had just been to the tip the day before and was about to drive south. As it was under warranty land rover shipped it back to cairns where after taking it apart the starter was (allegedly) full of mud and water. Like you it is something that I need to look at before my next big trip as I don't want it failing in the middle of the Simpson!

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I think my starter died last Saturday - while at Lidsdale SF. I had to be winched backwards down a slippery/gnarly track - had a couple of "change of underpants moments"! Got towed home by roadside assistance - glad I had it!

Anyhow, if I press the starter without pressing brake pedal - all the usual start dash lights are on and message saying to press brake pedal to start. If I press the start with the brake pedal pushed - it makes a click noise from near starter - then the dash lights go out on their own (and it doesn't turn over!) So think it's the starter.

From what I've seen, the starter on D3/D4/RRS diesels are all the same. There does appear to be a difference with the Ford Territory TDCi starter - it only has one breather hose, compared to two on the LR ones. (A major difference in prices too - LR ones about double Ford ones!).

Anyhow, getting a quote to repair tomorrow. My mobile LR mechanic says he is getting a few of these jobs lately. :mad:

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Originally Posted by jonesy63

I think my starter died last Saturday - while at Lidsdale SF. I had to be winched backwards down a slippery/gnarly track - had a couple of "change of underpants moments"! Got towed home by roadside assistance - glad I had it!

Anyhow, if I press the starter without pressing brake pedal - all the usual start dash lights are on and message saying to press brake pedal to start. If I press the start with the brake pedal pushed - it makes a click noise from near starter - then the dash lights go out on their own (and it doesn't turn over!) So think it's the starter.

From what I've seen, the starter on D3/D4/RRS diesels are all the same. There does appear to be a difference with the Ford Territory TDCi starter - it only has one breather hose, compared to two on the LR ones. (A major difference in prices too - LR ones about double Ford ones!).

Anyhow, getting a quote to repair tomorrow. My mobile LR mechanic says he is getting a few of these jobs lately. :mad:

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I would check battery before forking out for a starter.
Cheers

The battery and aux battery are fine (both over 12.5v). Thanks.

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Originally Posted by jonesy63

The battery and aux battery are fine (both over 12.5v). Thanks.

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That may not mean much.

Before NRMA tow they check the battery, fuses, etc. They also put their portable battery on it with no effect.

I've been keeping the batteries in good condition by weekly charging overnight with a Ctek charger.

Anyhow, I'll find out today what it is... hoping it is the starter.

For reference, the starter part number is LR043962 or Denso DSN944.

My mechanic confirmed it is the starter motor. The click noise is the solenoid engaging, but the starter motor is not turning. Off to order a new one.

In case anyone else has the symptoms I mentioned above, the starter motor was dead. It was replaced today and still won't start. Turns out the 400A mega fuse (YQG500010) has blown when the starter died.

or...... the fuse only had blown.

You will never know.....

FWIW,a battery can have a surface charge and have 12.6 volts or so at the terminals.

If you have someone turn the ignition key or push the start button(depending on model vehicle),and the voltage drops to something like 6 to 8v,the battery is probably shagged.

This is exactly what happened to one of our work vans on Monday.New battery,all good.