Thread: Is a Jeep Grand Cherokee really better than a D4?

So, they've awarded it "car of the year" without even driving it.

This Jeep does not like sand.....so you would think that would immediately wipe them out of the running for what most Australians use their 4wdrives for.

Brett....

They're a tidy unit.... Guy here has the latest V8 version..

They are smaller... Less space..

But they are nice...

Would I swap the D4... Not on your life...


Amarok will be my next vehicle... Not a Jeep...

Originally Posted by d@rk51d3

So, they've awarded it "car of the year" without even driving it.

even better the vote for peoples choice is riged It only has the cars they want to win in the so called "peoples choice" http://www.drive.com.au/car-of-the-year/
smells like a rat to me.

Put a post on the article. Bet it will not get published.
"A 4wd compared to what. Toorak tractors or a real bush, mountain or sand likable car not tested and you vote it number 1 4WD. The seems to more than slightly undermined your credibility."

Originally Posted by DiscoDavey

Is a Jeep Grand Cherokee really better than a D4?

No

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaYFLb8WMGM]Jeep Grand Cherokee moose test -- the full story - YouTube[/ame]

maybe some one should post that link on the Drive site

I will admit I went and drove a Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited yesterday after checking out the flash Overland model.

The Limited doesn't drive quite as nice as air suspended D3/4 but the Limited didn't have the air suspension option like the Overland does, so it's not a fair comparison.

The diesel engine is great with plenty of power, a bit noisy though but very smooth, the five speed auto is ok.

Now the Overland, compare that to even a HSE D4 in standard equipment levels and it makes the Landy look like a basic shopping trolley.

They are about the size of a RRS inside including boot space and like a RRS they are only five seats, but to be honest we don't need a seven seater.

The options the Overland comes with is amazing, you would have to order specially a HSE that would cost around $120k with similar options I would guess and it comes standard with an e-diff. The air suspension lifts 2.5 inches in off road mode and doesn't lower until 80 kph. it has heated and cooled seats, full sun roof, it has a flash pretty much D3 Logic 7 level Harmon Kardon stereo (not D4 Logic 7 level), Nappa leather trim, reverse camera and Gps, auto open and close tail gate, auto speed sensing cruise control and it also tows 3.5 ton and that is just a few of the standard features. Seriously also the finish in the Overland is very very good.

Another good thing the spare is carried inside the vehicle, so while it limits rear draws it does mean no rear wheel carrier is required and there is room for a rim with a much bigger tyre fitted. The Overland comes with 20's standard but the standard 18" Laredo rims fit if you need a reasonable selection of off road tyres. I was told they believe a long range tank will become available in the not to distant future and there is a massive amount of room under it for one.

One of the main let downs for me was you need a WDH if you tow over 2.25 ton. You can now get a bull bar (alloy) and I don't believe there is a snorkel, nor could one be fitted easily. There is no room under the bonnet for a dual battery but supposedly there is kit you can buy. The carrying capacity is not great, somewhere around 600 kgs I think, not 100% on that.

I watched the video and the swerve test was pretty bad but maybe for a start they need better tyres than the standard very low profile Kumho's they come with???

As a soft off roader that could go most places but is mainly for dirt roads and towing large vans I reckon they have it pretty much nailed. Why? Because a diesel Overland with all the bells and whistles standard costs about $78k drive away RRP.

How can Jeep sell these here for that price when a Similar spec D4 would cost way north of $100k?

If it was 100% a decision made by Gloria my wife then we would have come home with a diesel Overland yesterday end of story and at that amazing price and all the top notch gear it comes with tandard and the way it drives it is hard to argue against it I must admit. So an obvious word of advice to any others out there, do not take your wife with you to look at one of these things as it might prove to be a game changer.

cheers,
Terry

I dont think the LandRover fared too well with the Moose Test either.

Land Rover Defender becomes the 3'rd car ever to fail the Moose-test

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