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Thread: A Different Transmission Fault

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geedublya View Post
    This was the reason they moved the ECU to the 2nd battery tray on the D4.
    That ecu is not the transmission ecu, it is the transfer case ecu. However in the 2nd battery tray is the loom connection between the gearshift lever mechanism and the gearbox itself.
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    You are correct Graeme, I'm getting my ECUs mixed up. What I should have written is that the CAN connections to the Transfer case ECU are prone to getting wet and corrosion can occur.

    The detail below is from the manual. I have seen problems with ones in red. I usually see transmission fault, HDC unavailable, Park brake faults and sometimes suspension faults. I suspect if I try to select low range I would get an error as well.

    CONTROLLER AREA NETWORK (CAN)
    The high speed CAN broadcast bus network is used to connect the powertrain modules. The CAN bus is connected
    between the following electronic units:
    High Speed CAN Bus
    �� TCM (Transmission Control Module)
    �� Instrument cluster
    �� Air suspension module
    �� Steering angle sensor
    �� Rear differential module
    �� Centre console switch pack
    �� Electric park brake module
    �� Restraints control module
    �� Engine Control Module (ECM)
    �� ABS control module (HDC faults)
    �� Adaptive front lighting control module
    �� Transfer box control module
    �� Adaptive cruise control module
    �� Diagnostic socket.
    The CAN bus allows a fast exchange of data between modules. The CAN bus comprises two wires which are identified as
    CAN high (H) and CAN low (L). The two wires are coloured yellow/black (H) and yellow/brown (L) and are twisted
    together to minimise electromagnetic interference (noise) produced by the CAN bus messages. For additional information,
    refer to Communications Network (418-00 )
    In the event of CAN bus failure, the following symptoms may be observed:
    �� Transmission operates in default mode
    �� Torque converter lock-up clutch control is disabled
    �� Gear position indication in instrument cluster message centre inoperative (this will also occur with any
    transmission fault).
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    The TC module and its connector not being sealed is a weak point in the general water-proof connections everywhere else where water can reasonably be expected to get. The suspension ecu's connectors aren't sealed either but water doesn't usually get inside the cabin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geedublya View Post
    You are correct Graeme, I'm getting my ECUs mixed up. What I should have written is that the CAN connections to the Transfer case ECU are prone to getting wet and corrosion can occur.

    In the event of CAN bus failure, the following symptoms may be observed:
    �� Transmission operates in default mode
    �� Torque converter lock-up clutch control is disabled
    �� Gear position indication in instrument cluster message centre inoperative (this will also occur with any
    transmission fault).
    This is the exact fault I am getting. Has happened twice, the last time was two weeks ago. Whereabouts is the TC ECU on these cars? Near the battery? What should I be looking for?

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    Rich, those faults might only involve the gearbox wiring, not necessarily the HS canbus or any other ecu connected to it. Anyway, the transfer case module in the D4 is located forward of the brake booster and I understand the D3's is in the same place.
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    D3 is mounted behind the battery from what I understand.

    Yes, if you are only getting one fault it is probably the gearbox or connection to it.
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    Today after replacing the alternator I finally got around to checking the transfer case ECU connectors.
    On the D3 it is located behind the battery inside a plastic compartment.



    Someone had been there previously and broken the clips that hold the compartment together. Mine was held together with duct tape.
    The compartment is sealed however I wouldn't like to submerge it. It should be splashproof in normal circumstances though.

    The ECU unclips from the compartment and then you just remove the connectors. I found corrosion and evidence of water ingress on the middle connector.


    I cleaned both the plug and socket with a toothbrush and contact cleaner, I used a product called deoxit. On reassembly I used Dow Corning DC4 electrical compound on the connectors hopefully this will prevent more corrosion and water ingress in the future. Of course I will order a new compartment as well.

    So far there have been no errors I'll see how it goes over the next few weeks.
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