also.... what would be the best way to verify if your shocks are stuffed and are they considered wear and tear or warranty item if within warranty period?
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						Air suspension is harder at different heights so it could be height calibration?
I found mine got very hard when the dealer tightened up the bush bolts on the hoist when the suspension was dropped and tore one of the bushes.
Suspension is quite sensitive so slight differences will be more noticeable.
also.... what would be the best way to verify if your shocks are stuffed and are they considered wear and tear or warranty item if within warranty period?
Cheers,
Sean
“Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.” - Albert Einstein
Shocks should be covered under new car warranty.
Cheers,
Terry
D1 V8 (Gone)D2a HSE V8 (Gone)D3 HSE TDV6 (Unfortunately Gone)D4 V8
Cheers,
Sean
“Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.” - Albert Einstein
Sean - no, Alto at St Leonards.
Also having dash top replaced, after two separate attempts to fix the "creaking" sound have failed.
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						I suspect you wouldn't get far claiming dampers with over 50k, that'd be considered normal wear. Doesn't stop you trying, but.
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						Don't worry Rob they'll replace if failed.
Shocks are covered as they are not a wearing part (like brake pads etc.)
Sorry Steve but a lot of manufacturers get away with not paying out because customers believe them when they say: "that's considered normal wear sir, not covered under warranty."
We have very good consumer protection rights, if we don't exercise them we will lose them.
There is a 'reasonable expectation' (rights can extend beyond manufacturers warranty) that the shocks will last longer than 50,000ks.
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						I don't believe this is correct as they do wear and their wear rates are different with different usage although if they leak then that's a different matter. I've never had a set of shocks that have been of much use after 50K kms. After market shocks are usually only warranted for 30K kms. Koni advised replacing all seals in their shocks if opened-up for revalving if they've done 30K kms because the seals will have worn significantly.
The other issue is whether the person assessing the shocks' usefulness knows the on-road feel of good and worn shocks. When I took my D4 to the nearest dealer on its last day of warranty to have the shocks assessed, the young mechanic had no idea of the indications of worn shocks and declared there was nothing wrong. The bouncing of the front that occurred each time the vehicle was stopped was just one indication and the one test drive around the outside of the workshop indicated that the mechanic had no clue about evaluating shocks. The ride was so sickening that I ordered a new set of shocks as soon as I got back home from the 400 km futile trip to that dealer. BTW, I will only consider returning to that dealer in a dire emergency because of their lack of mechanical knowledge combined with the attitude that they know everything and I know nothing.
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						I would argue that Shocks should not fail within the warranty period.Graeme it comes down to keeping the supplier honest. When it comes own to it LR would have a hard time getting away with refusing a claim on shocks within the warranty period.
Other parts that could be refused could be bearings and bushes but LR and other brands replace these under warranty.
Dealers do not know much and it is up to the customer to provide the evidence of failure.
You knew the shocks had failed so you need to provide evidence a mechanic or at least put your claim in writing suggesting poor shocks affect braking performance.
Surprised you didn't push it Graeme given your efforts on the possum lights.
The D4 shocks do not seem to last as long as the D3 one did.
LR are better than many on warranty claims partly due to their customers expecting more of the brand than Tojo, Holden or Ford owners do.
If you are happy to pay for parts yourself when they fail, despite having a warranty then that is your choice.
IMHO I think it better to fight for a claim.
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