Reply With QuoteThey are just trying to appeal to an additional market segment (Disco owners), same as earlier when they bought a Patrol to appeal to Nissan owners. They'll probably buy a Mitsubishi or a Ranger next.
Master
Agreed, at least Graham Cahill has more of an appreciation he will turn back on a bad track whereas counterpart keeps on going tearing it up.
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Master
SubscriberThey are just trying to appeal to an additional market segment (Disco owners), same as earlier when they bought a Patrol to appeal to Nissan owners. They'll probably buy a Mitsubishi or a Ranger next.
Master
I'm keen to see how far they can push it, you don't see many D4's kitted out with bars and bigger tyres plus all the other gear they chuck on. Hopefully it holds up and shows all the 200 series owners that they just bought the wrong vehicle
Originally Posted by RVR110
I hope they get a Great Wall soon, now that's a work of art....
Master
Not enough of these followers obviouslybut either way I hope this is photoshopped!
PS: that's from the website of another more "conservative" 4wd tv show, not 4wd action
Master
SupporterWow... how funny are the precious land rover owners...
I personally think this is awesome. I'm tired of seeing just the Landcruisers and Patrols.
Big deal if they break it. On one of their recent videos and issues they talked about the alternator failing on Glen's 200 Series and said nothing complimentary about the design/location of it. Not to mention their disappointment with it simply failing, twice on the same outing.
What's to be concerned about, I don't think I've read an issue or chuckled at something that broke on a 4wd.
I quite like watching their videos, seeing places I wouldn't have the guts to go myself - hell I'd have to have my land rover out of the work shop long enough to actually get out past the city limits... oh I see why the uproar now...
Seriously though... Land Rover keeps winning 4wd of the year... these guys actually taking it off road won't change anyone's perception if it fails for all the 'dumb reasons', but should it not fail, that will change perceptions.
Personally I'm over all the back handed "you poor thing" comments when I admit to buying a D2. Bring on the D4 in the hands of these guys I say.
And on a final note... I like the effort John Rooth is putting into keeping tracks and parks open.
I'm not seeing a bunch of yahoos ripping up tracks, I see a bunch of guys driving tracks and parts of this country I'll never see. I see people confident in their skills and their 4wds and their bush mechanic skills to get in and out.
Actually, Jamie of JTS touring drives a Defender... so there's been a Land Rover in the mix for a while now.
Master
SupporterGood on you 4wd action can't wait to see how it performs.
Not sure why every one has there nickers in a knot .
Dan
Wizard
I've heard lots of people make these kinds of comments about these guys here for ages but never seen any of the videos, but some one gave me a few recently and I watched them last weekend and I have yo say it wasn't nearly as bad as I expected. Roothy is a bit of a dick but overall I thought they were generally responsible despite taking on some pretty crazy tracks.
The worst I saw them do was go through a mud hole and get stuck and make quite a mess of it when there was clearly a way around it which they ended up taking, and there was one bit where they had a vehicle which was leaning over and a guy on the high side hanging on to keep it upright and Roothy was standing holding a winch controller on the low side which was a but stoopid. And anyone who wears thongs while doing that stuff is a fool.
But overall not too bad.
As others have said hope they take the time to learn how to drive the D4 properly and it should be awesome.
Master
My concern for them having the D4 and why I shared the video is that they won't treat it with the respect such a vehicle demands.
The 200 got hammered and driven in a way that didn't allow it to perform comfortably, and neither will the D4.
One thing I learnt when using my D3 was that slow and steady is best. It doesn't like fast and hard, this is what is going to reflect poorly on the marque.
The only benefit is that maybe third party manufacturers might offer better and more add ons.
Wizard
SubscriberI reckon it is good to see. JLR keep telling us how they have been working on the QA/QC. We shouldn't have to "baby" the cars, and if these guys treat them harshly, and it works, great!Like most I also get the "yeah great on road but if you really were serious why didn't I stick with Toynissamitisbushi" Gets tiresome. Saw a RRC on the ferry to Moreton. Last car on, early 4 door. Guy gets out and spends the trip working under car. All Jap car drivers walk away in disgust with comment "typical LR". Turns out car lives on Moreton. Is the daily driver over there. Gearbox center diff has jammed, and given where it is and what it is used for, this is a good thing. Car needs a new muffler, so to get it to mainland, guy drops the rear tailshaft, drives to mainland as front two wheel drive car. Then re fits tail shaft on way back. A clever and cheap solution. And was he happy with his choice of permanent beach car? You bet. But to casual observer, it put LR in bad light and reinforced perceptions. So something like this is a good thing.
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