4WD Action/Roo Systems acquires a D4... :(

What does everyone think is so **** weak about a D3/4? I can understand them having EAS issues, and trashing panels (what moron decided to put such huge slabs on the sides of it?), but I've never heard of an axle breaking, or even a wishbone getting ripped off (unless in a crash). Sure if you flog it into a huge puddle you'll get a whole heap of electrical gremlins, if it's over 700mm deep or it gets parked there... I can't see them having major mechanical issues though, all the issues seem to be stupid little things.

And yes I'm aware there is a huge difference between a D1 and a D4...

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Originally Posted by MR LR

What does everyone think is so **** weak about a D3/4? I can understand them having EAS issues, and trashing panels (what moron decided to put such huge slabs on the sides of it?), but I've never heard of an axle breaking, or even a wishbone getting ripped off (unless in a crash). Sure if you flog it into a huge puddle you'll get a whole heap of electrical gremlins, if it's over 700mm deep or it gets parked there... I can't see them having major mechanical issues though, all the issues seem to be stupid little things.

And yes I'm aware there is a huge difference between a D1 and a D4...

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Keep up young Will !!


CV failure here:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/...new-forum.html


Wishbone failure here:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/nsw-act-re...18-20-ish.html


There you go - officially ****weak :).

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Originally Posted by MR LR

What does everyone think is so **** weak about a D3/4? I can understand them having EAS issues, and trashing panels (what moron decided to put such huge slabs on the sides of it?), but I've never heard of an axle breaking, or even a wishbone getting ripped off (unless in a crash). Sure if you flog it into a huge puddle you'll get a whole heap of electrical gremlins, if it's over 700mm deep or it gets parked there... I can't see them having major mechanical issues though, all the issues seem to be stupid little things.

And yes I'm aware there is a huge difference between a D1 and a D4...

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For me it's just this simple, I'm not mechanically minded not one bit. So if I where going to the Cape I'd rather go in a Defender before I went in a D3 or D4. I know many D3's and D4's have gone to the Cape successfully before anyone jumps down my throat I didn't say that. Now I'm not trying to start a flame war. It's just that for me that's not mechanically minded I want to enjoy the trip not worry that the local mechanic in that remote area doesn't have the latest software upgrades to get me on my merry way again. It's just that simple for me. For you guys that can spin spanners and plug a laptop in with software updates and are mechanically minded I'm envious of you I just cannot do that.

Not being a smart ass either but as you say the difference between a D1 and D4 is poles apart.

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Originally Posted by scarry

There is actually a comment from someone at LRA on that facebook site.Maybe they are keeping an eye on things?

I wonder if they have a look on here as well......:o

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I don't think he's a JLR representative judging by his FB page.

In reality its not the D3/4's that, more often then not, can't go places, its the owners who don't want to risk damaging or wrecking their relatively new and expensive vehicles.

As D3's get older and become more affordable more and more of them will end up being used for what they were originally designed for and end up like mine with as many bumps, dents and scratches as your average Defender.

Now if I could just find a set of portals to fit a D3 and then fit 35's I'd be happy and Rich would be livid ...;)

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Originally Posted by Scouse

Keep up young Will !!


CV failure here:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/...new-forum.html


Wishbone failure here:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/nsw-act-re...18-20-ish.html


There you go - officially ****weak :).

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HAHA I guess they are **** weak then :twisted:

I wonder how they'd last if they were driven to the places D1's went before them...

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Originally Posted by ak

For me it's just this simple, I'm not mechanically minded not one bit. So if I where going to the Cape I'd rather go in a Defender before I went in a D3 or D4. I know many D3's and D4's have gone to the Cape successfully before anyone jumps down my throat I didn't say that. Now I'm not trying to start a flame war. It's just that for me that's not mechanically minded I want to enjoy the trip not worry that the local mechanic in that remote area doesn't have the latest software upgrades to get me on my merry way again. It's just that simple for me. For you guys that can spin spanners and plug a laptop in with software updates and are mechanically minded I'm envious of you I just cannot do that.

Not being a smart ass either but as you say the difference between a D1 and D4 is poles apart.

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I would suggest that if your not mechanically minded then a D1 or even a Defender would pose as many challenges if your stuck up the Cape as a late model Disco would.

As for software updates etc, that is a general maintenance thing, if you don't get your vehicle serviced and checked before you go away then you get what you deserve, whether its a D3/4 or Defender.

D1's and most Defenders are now very old, vehicles don't become more reliable when the get older. From experience I trust my D3 to reliably get me more places and further than I do either my D1 or D2.

Plenty of people who have never owned one like to comment about late model Disco's being unreliable or incapable, I consider that just as daft and narrow minded as the Toymota brigade who rubbish all LR's.

In another words don't knock it till you try it.

Have you ever heard the saying can't see the forest for the trees?

My opinion (may not carry very far but I'll give it anyway) is that the difference between a D3/D4 owner and the average 4wda follower is that the D3/D4 ownwer likes to go bush to see this beautiful country, they do it with respect for the land and their vehicle, we see the forest.
The 'others' go bush to see if they can traverse every track they come across with little regard to the track or their vehicle, can't see past the tree's.

There, my work is done.:angel:

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Originally Posted by MR LR

HAHA I guess they are **** weak then :twisted:

I wonder how they'd last if they were driven to the places D1's went before them...

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More than likely pretty well, get a bog stock standard D1 and a bog stock D3/4 and take them off road and see which one is more capable.

I bet the D1 owners would get a terrible shock at how good the late model Disco is and the places it could go easy where they would struggle.

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Originally Posted by sheerluck

Trim level doesn't matter as far as the e-diff is concerned. It's an option for all I believe.

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e-diff is standard on one version only the V8, on all others it is an option.