Real world TDV6 vs SDV6

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Originally Posted by WhiteD3

I drive a 2.7, 6 speed. My two bosses drive the 3.0, 8 speed. The 3.0 goes like a cut snake and the 8 speed is a gem. They both tow boats.

I don't tow and even if I did I can't see the worth in paying thousands more for the 3.0. When the 2.7 came out everyone raved about it and what a good tow vehicle it was. This is still the case, just that the 3.0 is better still.

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Good points...makes me think there is HUGE negotiating room on the SDV6, especially if volumes of sales on it are lagging the TDV6 significantly.:cool:

Also annoys me that the cruise control doesn't slow the vehicle if needed, I.e. Down a hill on the freeway - unlike the Mercedes GL, in fact all modern Mercs... You'd think LR could replicate that simple system!

I believe it is an option on the later models, I think that it is called "active cruise control".
Barryp

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Originally Posted by Barryp

I believe it is an option on the later models, I think that it is called "active cruise control".
Barryp

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Hi Barry,

Are you sure? I'd love to have someone confirm, as I've asked the sales reps who are really quite knowledgeable and they know what I'm on about, they definitely say no.

Stay tuned....;)

I even drove the RR VOGUE MY14 $260k list price, and that didn't have it

I thought that "active cruise control" only slowed the vehicle when its "radar" detected a slower vehicle in front. If there is no vehicle in front it acts like a normal cruise control.

Garry

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Originally Posted by garrycol

I thought that "active cruise control" only slowed the vehicle when its "radar" detected a slower vehicle in front. If there is no vehicle in front it acts like a normal cruise control.

Garry

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That's what I thought and just confirmed on range rovers.net .

What I was after is the Mercedes version that also holds your speed when you go down a steep hill, instead of having to drop down two gears and still brake. Don't know how the Mercedes one works, but the wife's car has it and the friends GL, guaranteed not to overspeed like conventional cruise does when faced with a downhill gradient. For the locals - think coming down Willunga hill and how cruise lets the car accelerate adinfinitum, we'll the Merc just holds whatever speed you set AND slows down more if you approach a slower vehicle.

The feature which slows the car down when it approaches a slower car requires radar, this an option on RRS and FFRR and has its own ecu. Maintaining correct speed going down hill etc is just part of the standard engine ECU software. LR's version of this is useless.

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Originally Posted by SBD4

Maintaining correct speed going down hill etc is just part of the standard engine ECU software. LR's version of this is useless.

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That is because it does not exist - the throttle is closed - nothing more.

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Originally Posted by garrycol

That is because it does not exist - the throttle is closed - nothing more.

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It's not fully closed until you cancel it. You can feel the difference with a tiny bit more engine braking when cruise is cancelled on a down hill over speed scenario.

sorry Garry , just re-read your post, yes I totally agree - it does not exist. Other cruises will, at the very least, change down gears etc to achieve some braking.

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Originally Posted by SBD4

It's not fully closed until you cancel it. You can feel the difference with a tiny bit more engine braking when cruise is cancelled on a down hill over speed scenario.

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Mine originally wasn't shutting off fuel completely but has been since a s/w update a couple of years ago although the vehicle sometimes has to be quite a lot over the set speed, up to 8 kph. Hence I usually cancel it early.