Thread: Llams or rock sliders

Originally Posted by Redback

Disco3QLD does sliders for $640 delivered, well, back when I bought them, I'm pretty sure they are still the same price, excellent sliders too.


Baz.

I stand corrected. Wish I had known that before I bought mine.

Originally Posted by giskard

For those with LLAMS, do you operate it day to day in stock position or lowered? If the latter do you get a better ride?

I wouldn't say I use it regularly but I use it pretty frequently. I often use it when going into carparks as I have a roofrack on and it allows you to go lower than the standard access height.

I use it pretty much every time I go off road or on soft sand.

I don't use it lowered around town, but I do on smooth highways, It makes the ride worse if you are on a bumpy road, but I like the way it feels at speed on a smooth highway. My only caution is that I have twice had suspension faults occur when heavily loaded with Llams at -20 at speed on a bumpy section corner. Greame swears it isn't the Llams, but I am not convinced. But all it has taken to resolve the problem is to stop, turn the car off and then on again and it clears.

As a within budget suggestion, have you considered something like an IIDTool for Land Rover - GAP Diagnostic ?

Will let you do all kinds of fiddling to your suspension (although not as simple or versatile as LLAMS), will possibly give you a bit of peace of mind when touring (can review and clear faults etc) and maybe reduce reliance on mechanics to tell you whats up with your vehicle. And probably other stuff too depending on your level of fiddling interest.

By my reckoning a diagnostic tool that at least reads fault codes is a must for these vehicles, and possibly the first accessory for anyone who lives or travels away from the cities. If only occasional height changes are required and don't yet have a diagnostic tool then I know what I'd be buying, having made good use of my Faultmate to avoid the dreaded tray-top truck.

I agree completely with Graham, a diagnostic tool that can clear faults is number one on the list. I met a gentleman last weekend at the RRC basic training day who was off to do the Simpson this week in pretty much a bog stock standard D4 apart from A/T's and a roof rack with a second spare wheel and jerry cans.

I tried to convince him to get some sort of diagnostic tool that would allow him to clear faults if he got stuck out there. I also offered to lend him my GOE rods for the trip to help him get up Big Red if required. He was pretty confident that all would be fine.

He was going with a number of mates who all had Toyota's, meaning no one would have a clue what to do with a Disco if he ran into trouble, Llams, GOE rods nor rock sliders would help him if his Disco decided it needed a little rest out there.

Might not be a flash thing but a decent diagnostic tool is the first thing to get.

Yes I agree Graeme & Terry, I guess you have to consider where you are going short term and be steered by that.
If doing W/E 4wd trips I'd still say LLAMS.
If it was long distance or desert / more remote trips I'd say Faultmate or IID tool etc would be a good start.

Some folk may find the proper diagnostic tools (fault mate, IIDTool) a little daunting (possibly dangerous) and may prefer NRMA Premium care ... personally I always carry both wherever I go ...

Hi Guys
I would put a big vote for LLAMS, we crossed the Simpson last month with our D4. Absolutely needed at least LLAMS or RODS for some of the faster flat sections. The D4 conquered Big Red (the hardest line) first time whilst the Toyota Prado and HiLux with us needed three or more tries..
Here is the toy at the top of Big Red.

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