Llams or rock sliders

**Redback** · 17th July 2014, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by RHS58

It's all relative.
Crossed the Simmo in 2009 in our Prado.
Crested Big Red first go.
So did brother in law in LC100.
Sadly the D3/4 with us failed several attempts at it - and this after getting bogged in the puddle at the base of Big Red beforehand. And being snatched out by a Toyota driven by a girl. The shame of it.
Am sure it comes down to experience and knowing your vehicle. And tyres and pressures.
Not the vehicle.... More the driver.
My 2c worth for your consideration.

Yes would agree with this, the driver plays a big part in certain tasks, when I tackled Big Red, it was a doddle really, yet some vehicles(2 80 series cruisers and 1 Defender were having 5, 6 and 7 goes, yet me and friends in various vehicles had no problems.

Big Red fully loaded, I was basically seeing our well the Disco would handle the dunes, as on the Monday we would be crossing the desert towing the camper.
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Baz.

**AnD3rew** · 17th July 2014, 12:41 PM

I think like many 4wd situations Big Red is a combination of things. vehicle is a part of it but load, clearance, tyre pressures and driver experience and expertise especially with speed and throttle control are all a part of it.

It did give me great pleasure to drive circles up and down Big Red around a stuck Patrol driven by a complete xxxx tag-along your leader who previously had seen fit to try and give me and others some unasked for and unwanted and officious directions about where and how to drive and we were not part of his tour.

I had a big grin on my face as he was digging and swearing and gesticulating as I drove around him about 3 or 4 times

I then recovered someone else while he watched but left him to his own devices. Heartily deserved every bit of it, no remorse at all.

**Bluepippa** · 17th July 2014, 01:44 PM

Llams turned up today and with a little telephone advice from Graeme, how to get the centre console out, it's all in and working great....

So....
Llams... Tick
IIDTool... Tick

Thanks again Graeme, great service :-)

**winaje** · 17th July 2014, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by Bluepippa

Llams turned up today and with a little telephone advice from Graeme, how to get the centre console out, it's all in and working great....

So....
Llams... Tick
IIDTool... Tick

Thanks again Graeme, great service :-)

Excellent. Can't wait to fit mine, but have to get D2 out of the garage first...

**Rocket00** · 17th July 2014, 03:23 PM

Interested as to why you change from the Prado to the Discovery, seem the Prado was doing the joab and the family (brother) seems a strong Toyota follower

**4evershiva** · 17th July 2014, 04:19 PM

unfortunately i dint read this thread.....have selected rock sliders and bash plate first....next thing is definetly the llams....

**RHS58** · 17th July 2014, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by Rocket00

Interested as to why you change from the Prado to the Discovery, seem the Prado was doing the joab and the family (brother) seems a strong Toyota follower

Yep, Prado did the job required of it. Great car.
It was time to change it over for a number of reasons......
1 I needed something with bigger towing capacity.
2 Toyota seems to be having issues with diesel injectors in Prado's, HiLux's and LC200's. Expensive fixes when the engines D4Detonated. Mine was reaching the critical mileage when this problem becomes a risk. Mr Toyota seems to be in denial that there is a growing problem.
3 have you seen the size of a LC200? Too big for me.
4 a number of acquaintances have D4's or RRS's and were very happy with them.
5 I had a test drive and really liked the SDV6. (The D4 exterior styling I am still getting used to....but it's spacious and functional and growing on me)
6 I could afford it.
7 the other options were the utes like Mazda BT50 or Ford Ranger, or Isuzu D-Max - not my go.
That's why.

**Rocket00** · 17th July 2014, 10:46 PM

Similar reason to me, I changed from a TDV8 FFRR, I felt the Disco was a better Tow Vehicle with the 8 speed and extra space. Tried the LC200 4 times but it was such a truck!! So far it has proven to be everything I expected, not quite as plush as the Vogue but certainly more practical for what I have planned. The availability of after market is certainly better.
And still our friends at Toyota remain in denial

**Disco4SE** · 18th July 2014, 07:52 AM

Originally Posted by Rocket00

Tried the LC200 4 times but it was such a truck!!

Believe it or not, the Disco is actually wider than a LC200.
Certainly doesn't look it, but it is......

Cheers, Craig

**BMKal** · 18th July 2014, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by AnD3rew

I think like many 4wd situations Big Red is a combination of things. vehicle is a part of it but load, clearance, tyre pressures and driver experience and expertise especially with speed and throttle control are all a part of it.

It did give me great pleasure to drive circles up and down Big Red around a stuck Patrol driven by a complete xxxx tag-along your leader who previously had seen fit to try and give me and others some unasked for and unwanted and officious directions about where and how to drive and we were not part of his tour.

I had a big grin on my face as he was digging and swearing and gesticulating as I drove around him about 3 or 4 times

I then recovered someone else while he watched but left him to his own devices. Heartily deserved every bit of it, no remorse at all.

Love it.

This wouldn't happen to be a certain SA based Nissan driving tag-along tour guide who is also a prominent moderator on the 4WDAction forum would it.

I remember this clown posting in the past that if any Land Rover owners wished to book a tag-along tour with his company, he would advise them to get another vehicle before they would be allowed on the trip. Complete tosser.

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