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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoJeffster View Post
    This has been done to death. Let’s unwind this, then unwind EFI because points were the best thing ever. Oh and fuel injectors are going to fail, so carby it is. Oh but they were sooooo reliable. "ENGINE OIL LEVEL MONITOR SYSTEM FAULT"
    Those changes were improvements.

    The oil level system with no dipstick is really no 'improvement',over a normal type dipstick that probably 95% plus vehicles use these days with no issues,and have done for the many, many years.
    As said with the dipstick, most, if not all vehicles also have an oil pressure and level warning light as well.

    So how can this electronic oil level gauge with dash read out be any better than the old system?

    Once again, its technology for technologys sake, nothing else.

    FWIW,the vehicles I have seen with LR's latest ingenium engines had dipsticks, so maybe they have moved away from the electronic oil level system?

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    How many stock cars have dry sumps? Not trying to be funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarry View Post
    Those changes were improvements.

    The oil level system with no dipstick is really no 'improvement',over a normal type dipstick that probably 95% plus vehicles use these days with no issues,and have done for the many, many years.
    As said with the dipstick, most, if not all vehicles also have an oil pressure and level warning light as well.

    So how can this electronic oil level gauge with dash read out be any better than the old system?

    Once again, its technology for technologys sake, nothing else.

    FWIW,the vehicles I have seen with LR's latest ingenium engines had dipsticks, so maybe they have moved away from the electronic oil level system?

    I couldnt care less for an instrument read out - could have at least make it a compensating oil check, together with a dipstick as well.

    How would you check the oil level on these engines on a mounting stand without an instrument cluster? I guess you couldnt.

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    "ENGINE OIL LEVEL MONITOR SYSTEM FAULT"

    So it turns out LR is not the only cars which have the Oil sensor monitors, more so common. However the other manufacturers have been mounting the sensors externally of the sump so the unit and wiring is not submerged with hot oil, and also a serviceable item.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imaz View Post
    So it turns out LR is not the only cars which have the Oil sensor monitors, more so common. However the other manufacturers have been mounting the sensors externally of the sump so the unit and wiring is not submerged with hot oil, and also a serviceable item.
    Yes it’s very common now, but LR could have done it better. Though we need to blame PSA not LR per se.
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    Have a look at this very entertaining video - the oil level sensor is item one - right at the start.

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    good info in this video but hardly entertaining.. one wonders why buy a D4 only to (immediately) bitch about it on YouTube.

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    So how much does it potentially cost not to have the terrible inconvenience of a dipstick?
    So maybe $400 body lift before they start, plus removing sump.
    $1000 or more?
    Regards PhilipA

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    In 1977 I bought a new Lancia Beta Coupe. On its dash was a gauge with a push button that you pushed to read the oil level in the engine. Was nothing electrical about it. The dipstick was hollow with a plastic tube that ran back to the dash gauge - not sure how it actually worked but I assume the push button just pressurised the system and the gauge read off the pressure - higher oil level results in higher pressure in the system reading on the gauge as "normal" - low oil level means a lower pressure in the system and so indicated by the gauge.

    Was simple and it worked without the overly complexity system in the 3.0TDV6 - plus you still had a dipstick.

    My 2.7TDV6 is coming up to 200,000km and does not burn or drop any oil between services (about 10 month intervals). So it is not as if you have to lift the bonnet to just check the oil - so not really sure why the 3.0 system was considered a necessity. Overly complex and has caused engine failures/issues due to either overfilling or running out of oil for some reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    So how much does it potentially cost not to have the terrible inconvenience of a dipstick?
    So maybe $400 body lift before they start, plus removing sump.
    $1000 or more?
    Regards PhilipA
    You would think a third party or even psa would have come up with a retrofitting dip stick as optional today, if the service port can be used as a dipstick, I’d be happy to do exactly that.

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