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Thread: Gearbox oil change / steel pan or not?

  1. #11
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    Mine cost $500.00 at MR . in Redcliffe. and I supplied the lubricant.The lubricant is a lot cheaper these days as you can now use the upgraded Dexron 6 that supersedes the original ZF spec.
    If you are towing or want a good life out of your gearbox it is imperative that you change the transmission regularly every 50,000 kls seems to be the norm.
    At the time I changed mine,I also did the diffs and transfer box, and they were badly oxidised and showed up very average in the lab tests.
    Richard.
    2010 D4 with jewelry.

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    MR are awesome, wish I still lived in Brisbane to be able to use them.

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    Changed the D4 auto pan at 90K kms using one of these kits Genuine ZF6HP26 Range Land Rover Automatic 6 Speed Steel Sump Conversion KIT | eBay oil was slightly darker than the new ZF Lifeguard6 [only done light towing]Front diff oil was like new,transfer slightly darker,but the 'E' diff definitely off colour[black]
    Recommend doing the lot whilst the vehicle is up on the hoist.

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    rwise :

    "The lubricant is a lot cheaper these days as you can now use the upgraded Dexron 6 that supersedes the original ZF spec."

    Which brand of Dexron 6 do you use / recommend, and how much cheaper is it than Lifeguard 6?

    Thanks,
    Wasa
    Last edited by Wasa57; 7th May 2015 at 03:32 PM. Reason: Addition for clarification

  5. #15
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    Dexron 6 is NOT suitable for ZF transmissions...
    The additive package for lifegard 6 is not available to ANY other oil blender and as such reputable brands are not offering a fluid rated as suitable.

    At one stage - back in 2010 Penrite had a compatible fluid (SIN ATF) but the additive supplier withdrew their product and no one can purchase it now.

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    Hi Wasa.
    I live in Brisbane and use a local product called
    Prolube Autosyn 6. It is a fully synthetic group 3 product that meets the latest DX6 spec.Most of the major oil companies now have this product in stock.
    Shell originally had the license to produce this product exclusively for ZF, but the license has now run out,and the latest dx6 supersedes the ZF requirement.
    And yes Penrite did produce a product that was supposed to meet the spec,but that was 5 years or more ago.Today things are different.
    I,m not sure of the price but compared to the ZF branded product it will be cheaper

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    I'm really apprehensive on this...
    Here is the Prolube
    Attachment 93579

    And the Penrite Specified equivalent
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    Note the warning:
    Attachment 93581


    If there is a genuine 100% equivalent then that's fantastic.

    However multiple searches and contact with a few manufacturers has had only negative responses.

    This may be the turning point!
    Last edited by Tombie; 12th November 2015 at 02:08 PM.

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    Hi Simm Aus,
    Steel pan is the way to go, not sure why people knowing what is widely known now would still consider the plastic option. You can get kits of Ebay at a reasonable cost, I got mine for $260 with the plug. My advice to you would be to stick with the Lifeguard 6 oil as per original. I have been tempted to change however then it comes down to how good the flush is, did you get all the old oil out and how much oil do you waste doing the flush, it isn't cheap.
    The TDV6 is easier to do than the petrol V6, Diesel engine exhaust goes over the gearbox, petrol goes under. My opinion having done both.

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    Just purchased steel pan conversion, BMW type with drain genuine ZF (replaceable) filter and gasket, and mechatronic plug off ebay, and 20L Lifeguard 6 ATF from local Repco.

    Total costs including delivery, and Repco discount, about 1 grand.

    It would seem that some of the dealer / independent service prices quoted hereabouts are quite reasonable!

    Now I will sleep a little more soundly when camped out the back of beyond.

    -Wasa

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    Had mine converted to a steel pan and fluid replaced by Damian and the guys at Peninsula Rangie for around $800. Shudder gone, performing fine after 20K, vehicle at 208K, still grinnin'
    -Chris
    D3 MY06 HSE TDV6, 285/60 R18 Cooper Zeon LTZ, Traxide, Mitch Hitch, Pseudo-Safari Snorkel, Second compressor, Quick Release Qubelok rear drawer and Waeco 60L on slide.
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    MY62 LWB Ser.2 Ute, MY78 LWB Patrol, MY74 RR, MY93 RR Vogue Plus.

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