D4 2009 TDV6 3.0 - Engine Seized

I thought that maybe it's just a few isolated cases however it seems that a well known Landrover specialist I spoke to is seeing more of these cases. He also alerted me to a technical bulletin about bearing failure which our local dealer knew nothing about. He has now looked it up and agrees there is one but there is no point worrying about that until we know the cause.


I can not really prove loyalty to the brand since it is our first Landrover but I love this vehicle. I enjoy every trip I do in it short or long. My wife told me in no uncertain terms that we wouldn't be buying one so I waited until she left the country for a holiday then I hopped on the next plane to Sydney and bought it. She was good enough to show me how to do internet banking before she left. When I picked her up from the Airport in it she just laughed.


Does willing to risk your marriage count as loyalty?

Here is my take on it. I would pursue all avenues to the ends of the earth to get some kind of help from the parent company. There is no way an engine and vehicle of this caliber should have this issue. All our customers with 3.0 d4 etc get oil purchased from the dealer so there is no way there can be any doubt there. I only use Mahle or genuine filters. I recommend 10k or max 12 months interval. If i EVER come across this problem which i hope i never do i will be in their face very loudly.

I had a PCJ fault and subsequent engine failure with an out of warranty 2.4 puma a while back and it was like talking to a brick wall consulting with landrover. I see that issue is dealt with in uk regularly and at higher km and out of warranty so what makes it any different down here??? My customer and i are still angry about that episode. ..

Jc

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Originally Posted by scomac

This is really starting to worry me as I have a 2010 3.0 D4. Starting to think about trading it, but on what? I know every make has it's problems but is it just me or does the "engine failure" scenario seem to be more prevalent?

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Petrol v8.

Cheers

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Originally Posted by scomac

This is really starting to worry me as I have a 2010 3.0 D4. Starting to think about trading it, but on what? I know every make has it's problems but is it just me or does the "engine failure" scenario seem to be more prevalent?

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So how many failures are we talking about? .... I've run out of fingers .... but then again I used to be a butcher.....

We'll never know,
The unhappy side of this site is the problems that our members have,
the Happy side is we can usually fix them!!

The engine replacement number is LR Secret Squirrel business.

The reality is if it's stuffed its stuffed, pulling the engine apart won't solve anything apart from confirm that yes indeed it is stuffed and incur you a bill to tell them what they already know.

You have to decide whether you are prepared to fight the honourable argument with LR even though the vehicle is out of warranty and the likely outcome, given their history in fixing anything out of warranty, is lots of angst and little chance of a easy solution while your Disco sits there possibly for months but definitely for weeks waiting for a outcome.
Another maybe less palatable pragmatic option but usually far less stressful and possibly far cheaper solution is take it away before the dealer pulls it all apart and get a private workshop to fit a new or replacement engine.

The reality is once it's in pieces you won't be taking it anywhere and then the dealer can charge you dealer rates, which are often much higher than a private workshops rates, to fix it.

So far I don't remember to many of these out of warranty engine meltdowns where a free replacement engine has been forth coming even after months of back and forth arguments and legal threats. I'm not saying this is right or good though rather that it is what it is.

Personally I would be asking LR for a heavily reduced in cost replacement engine given its low mileage and the potential for bad publicity.

Out of interest how often did you have the oil changed and do you know what oil was used?

Hi Scomac,
Most people who end up on a forum do because they have a problem, on this forum you usually come out with a way forward which at a time of "bustedness" is all you want. Yes reading peoples woes and problems can lead you into the mindset you are alluding to.
Trading it in..............why would you do that? Sorry my friend but if you applied that logic to every vehicle bought you would either ride a bicycle or walk. This forum is the best vehicle forum I have ever dealt with. The people are great, the information is endless. Some get a bit crabby when you ask a question that only required a quick search............ guilty!!!

I hear that Kia are now offering a 7 year warranty, not sure what that looks like I will never own a Kia. Kia forum, not so sure.

I got a |T shirt for my Stepson who is now in a TD5 Disco 2 and loving it, it says on the front "Land Rover getting ***** right since 1948" and they do.........

Stick with it, get your servicing right and continue to live the dream.

Cheers Marty.

Well. No news yet. Engine only just came out late yesterday. The Dealer is only to remove the sump to look for a cause.


I was told that if you remove the sump before removing the engine, if the engine then needs to come out (which seemed obvious) then you have to put the sump back on to remove the engine. Prior to any of this work I rang around and got a ball park figure for replacing the engine. Our local Dealer going on another replacement they had done gave me a similar estimate. We therefore decided they should remove the engine.


I should point out the previous engine they replaced was due to it running out of oil.


Our vehicle was a Demo vehicle. I can't remember how many kms it had done but not many. We had the oil changed at 12,000, 25,000 and then every 26,000 after that. All bar the last one were done by Landrover Dealers. The last one was done by a Repco servicing centre and they had to order in the correct oil for it.


Ian

Hope it doesn't hurt too badly mate. Some will tell me with modern oils 25,000 k or so is fine. However i dont accept it. Especially start stop short trips. They get condensation in the sump which doesn't help. Cheers

sorry Ian, but 26K? :Thump:


D4 oil must be really good:o