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CAR
The Achilles are the first mud tyre I've ever tried and I agree they are awful on wet bitumen.
I've had them on for nearly a year now. Though I had hoped to do a lot more off roading in that time, unfortunately it has been predominately the commute to work and school runs with the occasional off road trip.
I realise I can't compare them to any other mud tyre, but they're significantly worse than any other a/t or road tyre I've had on the D3 over the last 4 years.
There were times where I would intentionally test the grip levels at low speed around certain corners where it was safe to do so. Needless to say, the stability control kicked in far sooner than I thought it would.
There were also plenty of times during normal driving where I thought I was taking it pretty easy in the wet, and found the stability control still kicking in around corners. I even had the abs brakes kicking in when slowing down for an approaching intersection (slightly downhill). I've been at that intersection 100's of times over the years and have never experienced abs or wheel slippage there before. I've had the abs kick in at least 3 times there in the wet with these tyres. The 2nd and especially 3rd time really shocked me because I was already approaching slower than the last time.
When I bought them, the only thing the bloke said was "You know these things are gonna drive you crazy on the road. The noise in unbearable"
The noise doesn't bother me and I drive highways every day. I only notice the noise up around 100. I can easily live with it, especially with windows up.
I'm keen to try a different set of muddies, which are known to be better in the wet than others. If they are much the same as these, I'll be going back to a/t's.
They're a great looking tyre and they are not wearing as fast as I thought they would. At $250 each fitted and balanced, they were quite affordable too.
We are lucky in that we have a second set of rims, so we have ATs on our standard 18s(D697s) they are great tyres for on and offroad.
Our second set are only used for touring, and we prefer muddies because of some of the places we go and we are usually towing as well, it's not a good feeling to be stuck knowing that if we had mud tyres on, chances are we would not have gotten stuck in the first place.
So mud tyres are a precaution, I can live with the noise also and I know the limitations of a cheap mud tyre on wet roads, having had Nankang Mudstars(MAXXIS Buckshot copies) on our old D2, these were downright bloody dangerous on wet roads, and required a certain amount of care when driving wet roads.
I have had Kumhos before and I know they are a great tyre, both for grip in all dry conditions and wet bitumen roads, wet offroad, not so much, but probably the best AT I've had on any car, and would have chosen them for our 18"rims it they had them in the size we wanted.
Anyway soon as we get a few things sorted, we will go ahead with these new MT51s.
Baz.
Cheers Baz.
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