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    Quote Originally Posted by NomadicD3 View Post
    Hi All,
    Interesting topic Jonesfam and I hope you don't mind but I'd like to investigate this a bit more.
    So.... What should people do to by way of preventative measures?
    changing the coolant regularly? Given many coolants with anti freeze/boil have 3 year/100 thousand k "Advertised" life expectancy. What do people think is a reasonable time/distance to change the coolant.
    Any other ideas/suggestions?
    OEM coolant has a 10 year life.

    Nulon says 6

    Tectaloy says 3

    Havoline don't state for theirs but say it was still good for purpose during testing after 250,000 kms.

    Had mine changed recently as I was not certain how old the donor motor was that went in 4 years ago. Following that the coolant outlet housing started a slow leak and then spat the dummy when given a pressure test.
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    I bought The D3 new in 09, it was always serviced by a dealer until last year when I felt I was getting ripped off.
    Since then a good independent has been doing the servicing & repairs.
    I don't know if the coolant has been done but will look back through the paper work & find out.
    She has about 140000k on the clock & except for the fact she intermittently uses oil, the indy & I have never worked that 1 out, she seems to run very well.
    Those that don't know the Palmerston it is a steady climb from sea level up to about 1000m at it's highest.
    If she had got much hotter I would have definitely backed off.
    I saw the 119 just as I crested the first big climb & started to drop down to the Beatrice River, the second big climb after that she only got to a little over 100.
    When I drive to work the ambient temp is regularly over 40 between Croydon & Burketown, at 110 on the seal she rarely gets over 90 on the S/gauge, on the dirt where I'm on & off the throttle a lot she will get up to 93 - 96 but only for very short periods.
    She is due for here next service in Feb so I will make sure the Indy double checks the cooling system.
    Still amazes me that the in car Temp gauge didn't move, if she was close to Limp Mode you would think the in car gauge would give you a bit of warning?
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    BTW Does anybody else use a Scan Gauge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonesfam View Post
    BTW Does anybody else use a Scan Gauge?
    yes but not in a D3
    ived used mine in D2, P38, jackaroo, Vy commodore, peugeot 206.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonesfam View Post
    Still amazes me that the in car Temp gauge didn't move, if she was close to Limp Mode you would think the in car gauge would give you a bit of warning?
    That's the trouble with computers interpreting the data and providing it out as a reading. Approach seems to be that if you get a spike it shouldn't tell you that, but by the time it tells you that there is an issue the engine is damaged. No real substitute for a guage telling you directly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonesfam View Post
    BTW Does anybody else use a Scan Gauge?
    Gday...

    Yes, I have a scangauge connected all the time (2006 D3 188,000km) - as a gauge showing -
    Boost
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    Volts

    I tow a 2,600Kg van and on the flat, irrespective of ambient temperatures (but without head/side winds) it sits between 88 and 92DegC. Interestingly, stationary at idle it drops to 82-83degC.

    The hottest I have seen on the scanguage in the four years I have had it installed, was 108degC climbing up the Toowoomba Range from Brisbane - Ambient 32degC. But that was only in the steepest parts - for most of the climb it stayed at 104-105Deg and within 30secs of cresting into Toowoomba it had dropped back to 98degC.

    OH - yes ... the temp gauge has NEVER moved above the centre mark irrespective of the variations shown on the scangauge - or the ambient temperature.

    I bought the scanguage to identify and trouble shoot error codes .... Murphy's law has prevailed (thankfully) I haven't had an error code/message since I installed the scanguage. Perhaps I shouldn't have said that out loud

    Anyway, I love the D3 and doubt I will ever trade up to anything else as the changeover cost now would buy heaps of replacement/fixing should stuff begin to 'wear out'

    [edit: forgot to say - I travel full-time towing the van. The temps mentioned include whether towing or not]

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    Worth ensuring that its not down on coolant. The water outlet assembly fails with an initial weep then eventually lets go completely.
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    I have a Scan Gauge on my D4...

    I do tow a big van and I mostly see 90-105 as the temp while towing and 85 without the van.

    On a recent trip over Cunningham's Gap I saw 117 and the cars gauge did jump up to a higher reading for a short time. It was a very hot day which I suspect had a lot to do with the high readings.

    The D4 is almost 6 years and has a full dealer service history plus half service oil changes. I will be getting a cooling system service done just to get things checked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
    Worth ensuring that its not down on coolant. The water outlet assembly fails with an initial weep then eventually lets go completely.
    Yes it does. My coolant level started dropping slowly a week after it was changed. Fortunately for me the assembly failed under the pressure test in the workshop.
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    Think I need to get myself a scanguage!


    When I had the engine relaced a few months back they did say the radiator was about 2/3rds blocked though walsyas had the coolant serviced as well as engine servicings. Has only been on beach twice so no serious offroad. I was surprised it was so blocked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterOZ View Post
    Think I need to get myself a scanguage!


    When I had the engine relaced a few months back they did say the radiator was about 2/3rds blocked though walsyas had the coolant serviced as well as engine servicings. Has only been on beach twice so no serious offroad. I was surprised it was so blocked.

    Hi Peter,
    Mind if I ask how many K's on the vehicle. I'm only asking as mine's at 230k now and whilst the coolant has been changed twice in that time I was thinking it may be time to pull the radiator and have it cleaned and tested.
    Maybe we should do a bulk buy on scan gauges LOL

    Hi Dale,
    I did realise that I should have written "at least 3 years and 100k" on most coolants but I was wondering if anyone would leave their coolant for 3-10 years or 250 000k's? It's a bit like the ZF gearboxes being "sealed for life"? Which I guess is technically true, if you don't ever change the oil and the gearbox fails at whatever the K's then that is the life of the gearbox.......

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