Thread: D3 Fraser Island disappointment

Yes I agree they are a real good looking wheel, the early first and second generation versions used to crack occasionally if used in anger, I had a early first version wheel crack at Yawal in the rough stuff.
I have since brought two spare sets of later versions and have something like fifteen wheels in total including six new version three in the box black ones sitting in the garage plus the black set on the D3.

There must have been a good reason I brought all of them originally over time, on reflection now though I fail to see what that logic was. ...

Originally Posted by PhilipA

Hmmm.
Its pretty well accepted that excessive roll stiffness causes quick transition from grip to no grip particularly in wet conditions.

While the absolute limit of traction may be lower with more roll the transition from grip to no grip is more linear with more body roll within sensible limits.

Agreed. I also agree with your earlier statement that roll stiffness of itself does not equate to road holding. My point was that it is an important part of the overall package though.

As Slunnie alluded to earlier, nothing can be viewed in isolation. Your example of wet conditions above is particularly relevant as how much roll stiffness you want depends very much on the road surface.

Cheers,
Jon

I have seen an air suspension failure out in the bush, it ended up being a broken air line and the rear suspension dropped.

We were out with Robert Pepper on a snow trip, managed to get the car out & on to a gravel road.

At the time I was running 265 70 17's on my D3 so luckily it was not mine.

As previously mentioned Landrover do a coiler for the SA market which comes standard with 18's, has traction control but no terrain response.

I think they were developed for the South African market as an alternative for the Defender.

Originally Posted by chuck

I have seen an air suspension failure out in the bush, it ended up being a broken air line and the rear suspension dropped.

We were out with Robert Pepper on a snow trip, managed to get the car out & on to a gravel road.

At the time I was running 265 70 17's on my D3 so luckily it was not mine.

As previously mentioned Landrover do a coiler for the SA market which comes standard with 18's, has traction control but no terrain response.

I think they were developed for the South African market as an alternative for the Defender.

As I said Gordon sells an emergency air up kit, so broken airlines or failed compressors or electronic issues etc are not such a problem as long as you have the kit fitted and a good accessory compressor then the broken airline would not have stopped the D3 even if had 265x70/17's fitted.