Thread: Which is better Off Road a D3/4 or a late model Defender? ... Puma 110

Unfortunately and I do mean unfortunately given some of the various YouTube videos of the new Defender being tested and compared to other 4x4’s off road the topic of this thread might be just as relevant as for the old Defenders.

Originally Posted by TerryO

Unfortunately and I do mean unfortunately given some of the various YouTube videos of the new Defender being tested and compared to other 4x4’s off road the topic of this thread might be just as relevant as for the old Defenders.

Even more so since they essentially share the same suspension and the new 110 is close to the D3/4 wheelbase.

A traditional Defender with a rear locker is much better off road than a D3/4/5 or new Defender.

Yes and a twin locked D3/D4 with LLAMS will be better again . The point is once you start modifying vehicles all comparison bets are off so a locked Defender is not a valid comparison.

Originally Posted by 101RRS

Yes and a twin locked D3/D4 with LLAMS will be better again . The point is once you start modifying vehicles all comparison bets are off so a locked Defender is not a valid comparison.

No. Not even in the same class. There is nothing you can do to one of those Discos to make them beyond average off road. Of course I actually have experience off reading past the limits on all of them so what do I know.

Well that is your opinion - even if it is crap

Had them both off road,with no mods except tyres,and 40mm lift on Deefer.E diff,D4.

In some situations,the D4 will leave the Defender for dead.

In other situations,the Deefer will leave the D4 for dead.

How do i know?
Both in my sig have been same place,same time.

The Traction control is set up differently in the two vehicles,and that makes a huge difference,although the later Puma did have an updated TC system,probably software,which was better,i believe?

But they are both very capable off roaders.

I agree - the point is if you start modifiying the vehicles then you are comparing the mods not the base vehicle.

I think a standard of the show room floor late model Puma Defender will be better offroad in most conditions than unmodified late model Discos - but once modifications, like lockers start to be installed all bets are off as it comes down to the mods.

Garry