Thread: Which is better Off Road a D3/4 or a late model Defender? ... Puma 110

Might pay to make some definition of what type of 'offroad performance' we are trying to measure. Otherwise we are going to talk in circles for another200-odd posts of opiniated and unsubstantiated claims

Mayby some categories such as:

1) Sand
2) Mud
3) Rock Crawling
4) Outback touring
5) Graded / maintained dirt roads
6) ???

Address each in relation to the below sub categories
Comfort
Ability
Other (cool factor, etc)
???

Originally Posted by Toxic_Avenger

Might pay to make some definition of what type of 'offroad performance' we are trying to measure. Otherwise we are going to talk in circles for another200-odd posts of opiniated and unsubstantiated claims

Mayby some categories such as:

1) Sand
2) Mud
3) Rock Crawling
4) Outback touring
5) Graded / maintained dirt roads
6) ???

Address each in relation to the below sub categories
Comfort
Ability
Other (cool factor, etc)
???

6) The soccer mum run
Andrew

Originally Posted by frantic

The thing is you can reinforce the more exposed panels on a defender and all panels start higher.
The other thing that's ignored is replacing glass to keep going. No answer, no challenge, must be correct then.

The glass in a D4 is unbreakable .... no need to answer .

Originally Posted by jon3950

A very poorly executed river crossing, by people who clearly did not understand the vehicle they were driving.

Of course that could never happen in Puma, they don't have a computer. Oh, hang on....

Cheers,
Jon

I think he was talking about the Defender.

It's a very good point. The Defender is better off road as it has less electrical complexity. I've seen how electrical complexity performs in the bush. I think it was my first experience camping with you AULROians introduced me to Discoverys that succumbed to the mud. A notable example is Marty in his P38. I suspect he would have been fine on those occasions if only the computer didn't get wet.

You're boxing yourselves in and missing the obvious option....
Why compromise?.. Get the RRS!
Just as capable as the D4, goes 98% of the places a Puma will and you don't need to be Mike Leyland to work it.
BUT, there's the power, comfort, looks and on road (as it will be far more often), hose it down and you have a luxury car, a sports car, station wagon, family car... Quiet, comfortable, well optioned. Comes prefitted with towing gear...
Really, in terms of versatility and practicality ...it's the only car you need..
And I've stayed on topic.
Rob.

13 a spare tyre you can access in sand or mud
14 rarely driven by soccer mums so had cred
15 you can put a beer, Bundy or even Latte on the front guards safely

Originally Posted by AndyG

15 you can put a beer, Bundy or even Latte on the front guards safely

Add chequer plate to the wing tops for extra traction for the beer when in adverse conditions. It's like mud-terrain tyres for your beverages.

Originally Posted by Rob king

You're boxing yourselves in and missing the obvious option....
Why compromise?.. Get the RRS!
Just as capable as the D4, goes 98% of the places a Puma will and you don't need to be Mike Leyland to work it.
BUT, there's the power, comfort, looks and on road (as it will be far more often), hose it down and you have a luxury car, a sports car, station wagon, family car... Quiet, comfortable, well optioned. Comes prefitted with towing gear...
Really, in terms of versatility and practicality ...it's the only car you need..
And I've stayed on topic.
Rob.

The D4 does all of that and has a lot more room inside

Oh,and a D4 will go 100% of places a Puma will

And i have hardly wandered off topic either