Thread: Which is better Off Road a D3/4 or a late model Defender? ... Puma 110

This thread is trolling. Troll responses should be welcomed for what they are- a silly response to a silly question.

We're all in this together, but pointless argument is pointless. Just like the Holden Vs Ford debate, the answer is muddied by varied beliefs, preferences, and what people value.
Actually this thread is more like comparing a late model Ex Autosalon Commodore Versus a 5 series BMW. Someone will be frothing over the fully sick bass, as it rattles the numberplate off the trunk lid, while others will prefer the ride and refinement which they bought to drive their trophy wives to the golf club.
Both get you A>B, but some people prefer 150dB @ 80Hz, others just like to get there with class, while spending waaay too much money getting there.

Originally Posted by Toxic_Avenger

This thread is trolling. Troll responses should be welcomed for what they are- a silly response to a silly question.

We're all in this together, but pointless argument is pointless. Just like the Holden Vs Ford debate, the answer is muddied by varied beliefs, preferences, and what people value.
Actually this thread is more like comparing a late model Ex Autosalon Commodore Versus a 5 series BMW. Someone will be frothing over the fully sick bass, as it rattles the numberplate off the trunk lid, while others will prefer the ride and refinement which they bought to drive their trophy wives to the golf club.
Both get you A>B, but some people prefer 150dB @ 80Hz, others just like to get there with class, while spending waaay too much money getting there.

Yeah except a d4 is better than a commodore and a defender better than a BMW.


OK I'm out. It was fun for a while. Love em all.

* Blasted nexus signature be gone *

Maybe it was a bad example, but some questions are best left unanswered...

Guys this thread has been going for 20 pages,its been quite entertaining at times.Lets see if we can get another 20 pages without anybody getting their knickers in a knot.
THANKS FELLAS.
Andrew

Can you even put bigger tyres on a D4? As many above had said i would be happy to take a D4 off road in terms of capability ( and I think it would be very relaxed to drive) but I would wince every time I pinstriped it.

Originally Posted by dingsy

Can you even put bigger tyres on a D4? As many above had said i would be happy to take a D4 off road in terms of capability ( and I think it would be very relaxed to drive) but I would wince every time I pinstriped it.

Of course you can,its the D4 3.0lt that has the 19" wheel issue wich basically has no tyre upgrades.One has to buy expensive speciality 18" wheels to get the 18" selection which do let you increase tyre rolling diameter significantly.There are only 2 manufacturers of wheels that will fit.
Andrew

Both vehicles will take you where you want to go 99% of the time
Damage to Deefer is said to add character; Damage to a D4 said to make you cry.
My D4 has proud pinstripes and 2 dents from off-roading (strangely, alongside Defenders, going everywhere they went, just a little more comfortably)
I'm thankful that I can recall the damage event; (hitting that random tree, and countless overgrown tracks) and not be the victim of an out of control Woolies trolley ;-)
I did purchase one of these though:

Originally Posted by manic

But if you actually want listen to reason, you'll hear the truth. It is insane to truly believe the d3/d4 is better suited to offroad use than a defender. . Never again will they build a 4x4 that can be properly abused, rebuilt and abused again and again

I find this an odd argument. My new Defender is costing me $60k. I don't want to abuse it any more than I wanted to abuse my Disco. I do want to enjoy using it offroad as much as I have enjoyed the Disco.

Repairing panel damage on a Defender is just as expensive to do properly as it is on a Disco. That fact that you are able to live with a battered vehicle has more to do with its age and condition.

I'm not knocking that but would you be happy going out and bending panels on a new Defender that you just shelled $60k or more out on? If not its irrelevent to this argument, which is about the offroad capability of new vehicles.

Cheers,
Jon