Thread: Which is better Off Road a D3/4 or a late model Defender? ... Puma 110

See what I mean its cracking me up right now

Originally Posted by rick130

Damnit Lou, now I'm doing it !

I'm ..... gonna ..... use more ..... dots .... now .................................................. ..................

Originally Posted by Celtoid

Yup, they did ..... (well, I think the claim of work vehicle is also a little thin.....capable of, used that way... not so often).


Yes that's because a D4 is not designed to do that ..... doh!

Well that settles this thread for me. My definition of best off-road vehicle is HD working robustness and longevity in harsh environments as well as ability. If D4's were better at this there would be a lot more of them in the bush long term. Defenders are simply built to do this long term.
Cheers

Originally Posted by MrLandy

Well that settles this thread for me. My definition of best off-road vehicle is HD working robustness and longevity in harsh environments as well as ability. If D4's were better at this there would be a lot more of them in the bush long term. Defenders are simply built to do this long term.
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As in structurally a D4 platform can meet all those requirements and better them with regards to toughness, etc, etc, etc ..... we've been round the buoy on this more times than Grant Kenny ... geez... no wonder I use dots ..... but a D4 was not designed with a basic plastic internal skin, nor a work tray, nor anything else agricultural. It could be .... but it wasn't. Capable of doing ... YES, designed to do ... NO!!!

Originally Posted by ozscott

I dont understand the Defence force to have picked Steyer vehicles to go with their weapons nor because they are better...but based on cost and availability of the platform with parts for the next 20 years. There is no doubt about ability - both Defender and G-Wagon have that.
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The G-Wagon is not cheap .... the Military spec is more expensive than the ridiculously expensive $150K Civi version. But I imagine you're right and I guess it will be more reliable than a Deefer and therefore cost less to maintain over the years.


Availability of parts would certainly be a factor.


It would be interesting to see how reliable the G actually works out to be ..... I imagine it would be pretty good.

Originally Posted by Celtoid

The G-Wagon is not cheap .... the Military spec is more expensive than the ridiculously expensive $150K Civi version. But I imagine you're right and I guess it will be more reliable than a Deefer and therefore cost less to maintain over the years.


Availability of parts would certainly be a factor.


It would be interesting to see how reliable the G actually works out to be ..... I imagine it would be pretty good.

The Perenties weren't cheap nearly thirty years ago either.
I was told back in the mid/late nineties, I remember being a little gobsmacked but I'd be making it up if I quoted a figure now.

It should be a good bit if kit Celtoid...not without early problems but they should have sorted them....the contract would be worth enough to get them right for our conditions.

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DEPI in Vic are also buying them as apparently they are overloading their cruisers with winches being removed.
DEPI officers are not happy as they need winches to get them out.