Thread: Which is better Off Road a D3/4 or a late model Defender? ... Puma 110

Gordon;

As to your comments on me not knowing abour torque and fuel.....mmmmm.....well besides running 3 truck and dogs, 3 bogeys, a 6 toner, a 5 toner and 2 3 tonners......i dont know anything.

All i know is that the fancier the truck, the more hp the more stuff goes wrong. I live this everyday of my life, its my job.

Trucks are ladder fame chassis with engines powered to get the job done without breaking stuff. 550hp is more than enough hp to pull a truck and dog with 38 ton pay laod theres no need for a 700hp scania (most would be like: why not?).
Now as i keep saying these principles apply to the defender. Everything is focused around robust reliabily without compromising capability. This understanding is fundamental the ops post. Which is more capable of the shelf?
What does 4wding require?
Well it requires robust construction helping reliabilty with adequate power to match, throw in tyre size with excellent vehicle clearance and your good to go.

The d4 is great if you dont know how to drive , kind of like an alison auto is good in a bogey for a bloke that cant drive a road ranger box.



On a different note; d4s are so capable but i dont think ive ever seen one as a conp truck......youd think owning a d4 would mean that you can enter the arb wixh challenge and murder the competition in their solid axle sh...tboxes...

Originally Posted by 1nando

Gordon;

As to your comments on me not knowing abour torque and fuel.....mmmmm.....well besides running 3 truck and dogs, 3 bogeys, a 6 toner, a 5 toner and 2 3 tonners......i dont know anything.

All i know is that the fancier the truck, the more hp the more stuff goes wrong. I live this everyday of my life, its my job.

Trucks are ladder fame chassis with engines powered to get the job done without breaking stuff. 550hp is more than enough hp to pull a truck and dog with 38 ton pay laod theres no need for a 700hp scania (most would be like: why not?).
Now as i keep saying these principles apply to the defender. Everything is focused around robust reliabily without compromising capability. This understanding is fundamental the ops post. Which is more capable of the shelf?
What does 4wding require?
Well it requires robust construction helping reliabilty with adequate power to match, throw in tyre size with excellent vehicle clearance and your good to go.

The d4 is great if you dont know how to drive , kind of like an alison quto is good in a bogey for a bloke that cant drive a road ranger box.



On a different note; d4s are so capable but i dont think ive ever seen one as a conp truck......youd think owning a d4 would mean that you can enter the arb wixh challenge and murder the competition in their solid axle sh...tboxes...

I dont know why you keep refering to trucks,this thread has nothing to do with trucks.
I have tried to find utube videos of Gordon competeing in off-road events in a brand new stock D3,they arent that easy to find.When I find some I will post.
Andrew

Originally Posted by LandyAndy

The linked video of the 90 on the rock climb proves its not as effective,unless the driver forgot to press the "rock crawl" program.Didnt see smoke poring off the D3 or RRS wheels on the same climb
Andrew

Was that the latest 2.2 though?

Found one of Gordon in action.

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5ZqHhccPkA[/ame]
Andrew

Ill tell you what:

How about we organize a 4wd day.
Ill take my 2013 110 2.2 which cost about 20k less than any disco4. Ive spent about 15k which means it is still cheaper than a disco4 and we go out with my rear locked riding on 33s sh..tbox puma and see who has it easier offroad......id put my mortgage on it
Excuses please

And another.
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xzgECIlBPA[/ame]
Andrew

Originally Posted by LandyAndy

Found one of Gordon in action.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5ZqHhccPkA
Andrew

So, that was a standard off the show room floor as delivered D4?
The Jeeps did ok too.
Got footage of the late model Puma Defender going through the same course?

Originally Posted by LandyAndy

I dont know why you keep refering to trucks,this thread has nothing to do with trucks.
I have tried to find utube videos of Gordon competeing in off-road events in a brand new stock D3,they arent that easy to find.When I find some I will post.
Andrew

Trucks are working vehicles and so are defenders