Thread: Which is better Off Road a D3/4 or a late model Defender? ... Puma 110

Or one of these?

Originally Posted by TerryO

Or one of these?

Ive been looking for that pick on my computer Terry,I took that pic at the BP roadhouse in town,it was brand spanking new heading for Albany.
Tray is too long for my liking.
Andrew

I see Bunnings have a power improvement pellet for Defenders,it even is water resistant so you can store the product in the cab.If your Defender is acting like a snail or slug try some of this stuff.

Andrew

Originally Posted by LandyAndy

Ive been looking for that pick on my computer Terry,I took that pic at the BP roadhouse in town,it was brand spanking new heading for Albany.
Tray is too long for my liking.
Andrew

Goggle is your friend Andrew. ...

Originally Posted by TerryO

Elsewhere he talked about fitting sliders on the suspension wishbones from memory. You used to be able to and possibly still can buy flat plates that protected the suspension, under the rear diff, Gearbox, drive shaft etc. Don't believe they were meant for sliding rather to stop rocks smashing everything.

with an ARB bar fitted it is just about completely flat all the way back to the auto, apart from the front suspension. Add in the gearbox plate and a compressor cover and there is not much under there to get caught on except the exhaust where it goes under the rear suspension.

If I remember right I don't think he had a e-diff, it didn't look like it when he lifted his rear wheel either. Which makes its progress in that slop pretty impressive.

Did he have to alter much, Yep he did. But alot less than one might think. His main concern in the end was the inner plastic wheel guards which he never explained how he fixed them to fit around everything that I could find.

He had to reroute the rear air conditioning lines and hammer a couple of inner guard body seams flat and the biggest change was cutting off a inch of chassis rail that sticks out for no obvious reason on either side under the firewall into the front wheel arch. He had to tie up a section of canbus cabling with a cable tie or two as well up under one of the front guards. I'm sure there were others things but none that spring to mind.

So all in all not such a big job and not really expensive at all parts wise either that I remember. Not sure if he used wheel spacers, maybe someone else might remember if he did. I would like to have seen him on a dry rocky steep track or two like most here play on, that would have been of more interest for me.

Anyway a impressive vehicle and his 2.6 tons of weight didn't seam to stop him in the mud either.

He had 12.5 inch wide tyres and needed a fair offset on his rim to achieve it. He also had 2" airbag spacers which he cut down to 1&1/4" along with shorter sensor rods.

(Just read his thread )

Cheers

Dan

Originally Posted by ozscott

It all brings us back to the new Deefer. LR say it will be the best offroader in their line up. Sounds great but perhaps that just means compared to what might in 2018 be a dumbed down (for offroad) D5....

Cheers

"Dumbed Down D5" Interesting take. Considering a D4 can do most things a Deefer can (as well as better a lot of things a Deefer cant). And JLR are improving as they go ... (as in... D5 better than D4)! I figure a dumbed down version would be awesome ....

Originally Posted by Disco-tastic

He had 12.5 inch wide tyres and needed a fair offset on his rim to achieve it. He also had 2" airbag spacers which he cut down to 1&1/4" along with shorter sensor rods.

(Just read his thread )

Cheers

Dan

Oh what? .... he didn't need a chainsaw, 28' angle grinder, an auger and an Engineering team to achieve that result? Wow ... go figure?


Imagine a D4 in this video .....

Celtoid. My point is the new D5 may have a less offroad focus than the D4 given that the company knows it it producing a very offroad focused vehcile in about the same year - ie Defender. I dont think we can assume that D5 will have more bushability than.D4 especially the way brake and minimum rim sizes are going. If D5 is better offroad than the D4 then great and great too for the new Defender because LR have to make the Defender the best offroader in the line up 1. Because they said so and because they need to have such an icon and 2. because Defender has alwaya carried that tag.

Cheers