Thread: Which is better Off Road a D3/4 or a late model Defender? ... Puma 110

"THIS IS MY EXPERIENCE AND OPINION:

i own a 2013 2.2 110. Ive had parts thrown at my truck which in reality were thrown at it becuase of simple fixes which the dealer didnt address for what ever reason. For example i had 3 rear diffs (the 1st diff however was setup inccorrectly from factory) when the actual problem was the rear axels and flanges for example, ive even had 2 gearboxes :what: amongst a long list
Anyway to make a puma tough and reliable you need the following (remeber my opinion):
Hd rear axels
Hd flanges all round
Rear diff locker
Rear wheel carrier
Ashcroft output shaft kit

Thats it! Thats my experience, those listed items make the puma a formidable beast, tougher than any toyo or nissan out there! Obviously i could go on with the list of mods but they are not necessities but rather "wants" eg intercooler, remap, egr removal, 33s, bullbar, roof rack, lights, draws, snorkel, etc etc etc"

Funnily enough none of this was mentioned when slagging off D4s.3 diffs and 2 gearboxes in a vehicle thats only a couple of years old.How many other failures have you had???
Enough there to demand your money back under lemon laws!!!! Tough trucks them Defenders!!!!
Andrew

[QUOTE=LandyAndy;2502593]"THIS IS MY EXPERIENCE AND OPINION:

i own a 2013 2.2 110. Ive had parts thrown at my truck which in reality were thrown at it becuase of simple fixes which the dealer didnt address for what ever reason. For example i had 3 rear diffs (the 1st diff however was setup inccorrectly from factory) when the actual problem was the rear axels and flanges for example, ive even had 2 gearboxes :what: amongst a long list
Anyway to make a puma tough and reliable you need the following (remeber my opinion):
Hd rear axels
Hd flanges all round
Rear diff locker
Rear wheel carrier
Ashcroft output shaft kit

Thats it! Thats my experience, those listed items make the puma a formidable beast, tougher than any toyo or nissan out there! Obviously i could go on with the list of mods but they are not necessities but rather "wants" eg intercooler, remap, egr removal, 33s, bullbar, roof rack, lights, draws, snorkel, etc etc etc"

Funnily enough none of this was mentioned when slagging off D4s.3 diffs and 2 gearboxes in a vehicle thats only a couple of years old.How many other failures have you had???
Enough there to demand your money back under lemon laws!!!! Tough trucks them Defenders!!!!


The point im trying to make is that at the beginning of owning my defender i had multiple parts thrown at my truck as a result of the dealer not knowing how to fix it properly. 2 rear diffs, 2 boxes, a clutch, front prop, rear tailshaft, etc with no improvement on my backlash all because of a simple fix the dealer cluldnt work out. It wasnt until Pat303 on this site said it was the rear flanges that all my issues were sorted. The rear flanges were the cause of all of my issues and when repleced ive never had an issue since!

I got unlucky with my flanges and to my dealers credit they tried everything to fix it.

As for the other mods i mentioned them in earlier posts in this thread.

Ps: i could post hundreds of links where people have had multiple parts replaced becuase of things as simple as a faulty sensor or dodgey wiring!

Let it rest guys ....

If you have owned a highly modified for off roading D1 then chances are it has had a body lift, usually two inches is the norm. This along with some body work allows 33's to be fitted quite easy.

This pretty much became illegal once air bags and later on stability control became the norm. However that has how changed recently and its now legal to give your late model vehicle a 2" body lift without a engineers certificate.

Given the age and value of D3's now I reckon it's only a matter of time before this is done to those that are used for serious off roading. A 2" body lift with a couple of other minor mods would make it easy to fit 33's, possibly even bigger tyres. Once that is done to the present generation Disco then it would be pretty unstoppable off road and all the limitations mentioned by our Defender friends are gone and then the best 4wd ever made just became even better.

Attached is the link.

4WD lift kits now legal

So now it's the possibility of a d3 with body lift and 33s vs puma with?

Keep trying terryo.

Nice to see them relaxing laws on 4wd mods for a change.

MANIC , you haven't been paying attention, the Defender is factory standard, including the muddies, but the Disco can be modded,

But like they said, move on

Originally Posted by AndyG

MANIC , you haven't been paying attention, the Defender is factory standard, including the muddies, but the Disco can be modded,

But like they said, move on

That is not what was said and you know it.

By the way the only true way to move on Andy is not to comment. If you comment than you haven't actually moved on, so feel free to move on.

Originally Posted by TerryO

That is not what was said and you know it. By the way the only true way to move on Andy is not to comment. If you comment than you haven't actually moved on, so feel free to move on.

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