Thread: All the time or not?

Originally Posted by Tombie

Oh yes. That and it's law!!

So?

I find it some what amusing when people selectively quote the law as a reason for justifying their argument. Why? Because I am yet to met the perfect individual that has never broken the law when it comes to the use of a motor vehicle, most of us and I bet you to Tombie break it on a very regular basis.

As for the little pin in the gearbox that holds the car stationary when in park when was the last time anyone heard of one breaking and the vehicle rolling away? Versus how often have you heard of a incorrectly adjusted hand brake that allowed a vehicle to roll away sometime after the owner walked off? This only happens because they didn't have the vehicle in gear or park as well.

Using a handbrake is a good thing on hills but I always also put any vehicle I drive in gear or park as well because personally I trust the gearbox more than hand brakes.

Terry you've reminded me of our 1st (manual) D2, on which the handbrake shoes released their grip on many occasions after having been fully applied, one time allowing the vehicle to side-swipe a sturdy steel post at the bottom of a slope whilst my wife was closing a gate. Being a manual with diesel engine I was not inclined to switch the engine off at the end of a 100 kph drive to leave it in gear so relied on the hand-brake. The handbrake shoe spring design was flawed but rectified by the time we bought our 2nd manual TD5 D2.

Originally Posted by TerryO

So?


?...As for the little pin in the gearbox that holds the car stationary when in park when was the last time anyone heard of one breaking and the vehicle rolling away? Versus how often have you heard of a incorrectly adjusted hand brake that allowed a vehicle to roll away sometime after the owner walked off? This only happens because they didn't have the vehicle in gear or park as well.

Using a handbrake is a good thing on hills but I always also put any vehicle I drive in gear or park as well because personally I trust the gearbox more than hand brakes.

So who wants to post info about this mythical pin, fragile/not fragile? After all it was about this that the whole question came up.

Me and infractions? Not likely. however I always quote legal requirements in any thread - because comments which recommend doing things which are not legal can result in action against the individual... And I'm not willing to go there..

So - "the pin"... Over the years I have had 2 pins break, seen multiple others.
I have also repaired a few where the pin ends up damaged and won't disengage / engage.

I also advocate using P in an auto or 1st/Rev in a manual when parking also.

I certainly wouldn't leave a vehicle parked in gear without the handbrake - I've seen the results!

I've also seen auto vehicles unable to move off due to the pin jamming due to the load on the vehicle and the driver was unable to move out of P into a gear. The solution was to attach a strap and gently pull the vehicle back a little to release the tension.

OK but please, pin diagrams, pictures, manual pics, photos, anything..

Originally Posted by Nicky

OK but please, pin diagrams, pictures, manual pics, photos, anything..

I actually have these for the 6HP26 on my computer at home if you like

Originally Posted by Grentarc

I actually have these for the 6HP26 on my computer at home if you like

Can you post or PM me please

Has the method used in the 6HP26 in both mechanical selector and electronic selector - like the ZF 8HP is, so possibly same mechanism, although that is only pure speculation.
[ame]http://www.waggafish.com/Downloads/Land-Rover/Parklock.pdf[/ame]