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    LLAMS Operation

    I had LLAMS installed prior to departing on our current Central Australia trip. Silly me, should have checked all functionality prior to leaving. My understanding is that you can hold in offroad mode above 50kph by turning control to the first stop clockwise and raising the car. Car raises ok, but when 50 is reached, drops down to normal height (with usual warnings prior to hitting 50).

    Am i missing something?
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    LLAMS Operation

    Don't raise to Offroad. Llams 2nd stop alone is equivalent to Offroad. And Llams 1st stop alone is in between Normal and Offroad.

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    I think of Llams as an offset to whatever normal mode I'm in, either up or down. So for whatever normal mode you are in the usual restrictions apply, eg the 50km/h limit for Offroad.

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    You are missing something..

    Llams at Red Led is the equivalent of Offroad mode and is as high as you'll get above 50km/h.

    For most 50km/h and above travel, unless the crown is very high compared to wheel ruts then Amber setting (+30mm) is usually more than enough to maintain handling and avoid bumps.

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    On all except the very early versions that didn't get updated with the "recovery" option, super-extended height is available whilst in normal height mode (recovery/extra high) and therefore without any speed-related lowering but strongly discouraged at speeds much above walking pace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laughto View Post
    Car raises ok, but when 50 is reached, drops down to normal height (with usual warnings prior to hitting 50).
    You used +30mm above 50 kph rather than normal height so had the necessary height increase for improved comfort without too much height anyway.
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    So, travelling on llams green (-30mm) on a winding blacktop. Will the outside bags on a bend still stiffen as they will in normal height (as ecu won't know that car is lowered, ie. bags will have less pressure - need greater quantity of air to stiffen? )

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    No suspension height adjustments are made by the suspension ecu whilst under any significant acceleration/deceleration including cornering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrOsteo View Post
    So, travelling on llams green (-30mm) on a winding blacktop. Will the outside bags on a bend still stiffen as they will in normal height (as ecu won't know that car is lowered, ie. bags will have less pressure - need greater quantity of air to stiffen? )

    The bags don't stiffen... In normal mode the damper controls the roll - and it's no different at -20mm

    I can't run -30 as it hits the bump stops in edit mode and raises.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    The bags don't stiffen... In normal mode the damper controls the roll - and it's no different at -20mm.
    Tombie, do you mean control is no different & ride no different? I find the ride slightly firmer when on -20 Llams. Quite good on twisty bitumen.

    Haven't tried any lower than that, which I think is the special mode Extra Low.

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