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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevesonbeans View Post
    yes to ensure the LED lights on the trailer were detected.

    https://www.gore-research.com.au/tra...r-modules.html
    From their site:
    REMEMBER:
    All TA200 modules have a high internal input resistance (between 11,900 ohms & 15,200 ohms depending on the exact model). This ensures that no damage will occur when connected to the vehicle's electrics & that the vehicle's ECU will not detect the module. This feature is critical to the sales success of these electronic towbar modules.

    If the module was detected by the D4, the way it is wired up, the car would always think a trailer is connected.
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    Ok,

    I think I see what you mean.

    A lot of older stuff I've read talks about "Tow Assist" and how if the car doesn't know you have a trailer then it wont work. To be honest I'm a bit confused by this, should I assume this is just a built in feature that activates itself ? I've read my manual and it doesn't mention it.

    Anyway, I'm still unsure why it doesn't work. If the module is working right it should still be receiving the signal from the indicator and sending on the right signal from the tow module to the connector. It is doing the right thing with the brake light and the indicator on-signal, just not switching off during the flashing.

    You're right though, the car will still be none the wiser. Is this a bad move ?
    I have a separate new Tow Pro also installed as a brake controller.

    Steve

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    Too complex when $12 worth of bits would fix it.

    Send it back and grab a refund.

    Trailer stability is always there, the indicators will work, it just won't optimise the shifts to compensate.

    I will even make you a unit that does work if you like....

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    It has been said that the D4 will still activate the trailer stability program when required even if it can't detect it via the lights, as the various sensors in the vehicle will detect the extra load of towing a trailer. Without the lights being detected, the vehicle will still raise to off road height automatically with certain Terrain Response settings (whereas with a detected trailer it won't) and the reverse sensors will not deactivate.

    The only thing I can think as to why the box isn't working is that the low voltage between flashes may not be low enough for the box to switch off. Honestly, I would remove the module and wire in some 21w load resistors either permanently inline on the trailer plug loom (so they are only in circuit when a trailer is plugged in - only good if you only ever use LED trailer lights) - or on a switch like Chris has done.

    The Tow Pro is a good choice on brake controller - has it been installed like is recommended on this thread? http://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-disco...er-brakes.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevesonbeans View Post
    Ok,

    I think I see what you mean.

    A lot of older stuff I've read talks about "Tow Assist" and how if the car doesn't know you have a trailer then it wont work. To be honest I'm a bit confused by this, should I assume this is just a built in feature that activates itself ? I've read my manual and it doesn't mention it.

    Anyway, I'm still unsure why it doesn't work. If the module is working right it should still be receiving the signal from the indicator and sending on the right signal from the tow module to the connector. It is doing the right thing with the brake light and the indicator on-signal, just not switching off during the flashing.

    You're right though, the car will still be none the wiser. Is this a bad move ?
    I have a separate new Tow Pro also installed as a brake controller.

    Steve
    Steve,
    Did you install the Tow Pro???
    It MUST be installed as per Sniegys instructions.If not there is a fair chance it wont work,or even worse incorrectly wired brake controlers have been known to apply the brakes when the lights come on.It must not be wired to the brake switch wich is the norm in other vehicles.There is a wire that must be cut to prevent euro style tail lighting activating the brakes and a diode to stop any stray current from a faulty trailer brake feeding into and shorting the ECU,EXPENSIVE!!!!
    See this thread.If in doubt ask questions,plenty of us here that have done the job.
    Sniegy is a Land Rover dealer mechanic and has wired many vehicles.
    Andrew

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    Close Andy. Shorting the CJB not ECU Disco 4 LED Towing Module ProblemDisco 4 LED Towing Module Problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Close Andy. Shorting the CJB not ECU Disco 4 LED Towing Module ProblemDisco 4 LED Towing Module Problem
    I will go and sit in the naughty corner for 5 mins
    Andrew
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    I did - or correction, a friend who knows what he is doing did....
    I stood by and gave moral support. I'll be sure to pass this on so he can check. I've not tested the brakes yet, have been trying to get the bloody lights to work !
    Steve

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    That module looks like it's made for some other purpose - eg it is a trailer control module - which we already have in the disco. Either take up tombie's offer or look up pulse buster or linear electronic design for ready made (almost plug & play) boxes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevesonbeans View Post
    I did - or correction, a friend who knows what he is doing did....
    I stood by and gave moral support. I'll be sure to pass this on so he can check. I've not tested the brakes yet, have been trying to get the bloody lights to work !
    Steve


    Just check - knows what he's doing on D4s or knows what he's doing on old tech like Land Cruisers?

    Put it this way - did he remove the LHR tail light at all?
    How many wires from rear to front of vehicle did he run?
    And did you purchase a Diode at any point? If the answer is no then you likely have a problem..

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