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    Yes good advice. Thank you. My D90 on NYE would not work the full beam in the always on position only manual. Next night worked perfectly. Landys keep you guessing sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LandyAndy View Post
    I suspect you have a puncture in one of the air bags.
    When the vehicle was shifted it has moved the fold in the bag sealing the leak.I suggest he gets soapy water and tests for leaks.Raise it to off-road height.
    Andrew
    It should detect a leak as it will realise it is not building pressure in the line and throw a suspension component failure fault and drop to bump stops before the compressor overheats.


    For future reference though, the temp probe is bolted to the compressor head with a M6 torx screw.

    A lot of people see this fault just after they install Llams, as they play with it for the next half hour.
    - Justin
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    Moved into MY12 L322 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography
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    I saw this fault whilst trying to inbox myself on the beach in Esperance. Lowered to normal to get it to bottom and trigger extended but it came up with that. I'd only just raised to to off-road height a bit beforehand mind, but it does seem to not take much to overheat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoJeffster View Post
    I saw this fault whilst trying to inbox myself on the beach in Esperance. Lowered to normal to get it to bottom and trigger extended but it came up with that. I'd only just raised to to off-road height a bit beforehand mind, but it does seem to not take much to overheat.
    When I installed my new compressor, I watched the temperature through my IID Tool of its first run - my reservoir and springs were all empty at this time - it got to 117?C by the time it got the D4 up to normal height and the reservoir up to pressure. This took about 5 minutes in total.
    If a compressor is older, the plastic cover is filled with mud/dirt/sand and the inlet filter hasn't ever been cleaned (or replaced with a better, serviceable filter like I have) then it is going to take longer to build up pressure, have less cooling capacity and therefore more likely to hit thermal cut out.
    - Justin
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    Moved into MY12 L322 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grentarc View Post
    When I installed my new compressor, I watched the temperature through my IID Tool of its first run - my reservoir and springs were all empty at this time - it got to 117?C by the time it got the D4 up to normal height and the reservoir up to pressure. This took about 5 minutes in total.
    If a compressor is older, the plastic cover is filled with mud/dirt/sand and the inlet filter hasn't ever been cleaned (or replaced with a better, serviceable filter like I have) then it is going to take longer to build up pressure, have less cooling capacity and therefore more likely to hit thermal cut out.


    Oh cool, didn't even think to monitor its temp with my iidtool. Mines a 2009 with 228k on it, second owner. It's never been touched so I might get in there and give it a good clean. Cheers for the tip.
    2010 TDV6 3.0L Discovery 4 HSE
    2007 Audi RS4 (B7)

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    Quote Originally Posted by LandyAndy View Post
    I suspect you have a puncture in one of the air bags.
    When the vehicle was shifted it has moved the fold in the bag sealing the leak.I suggest he gets soapy water and tests for leaks.Raise it to off-road height.
    Andrew
    Safety First - always, always, always take precautions when working under a vehicle. Especially one with variable height air suspension if you suspect a leak! There is no clearance under a disco when it's sitting on its bump stops and if it decides to let go on you when you're under there it won't be a nice outcome!! My neighbour has a friend that was crushed under a car whilst working on it. They survived but received substantial injuries and took many months to recover.

    Enough of the morbid stuff and back on topic, when I first took ownership of my D3, my compressor overheat on a trip back from SA to Sydney due to a faulty ride height sensor. Needed to get towed from Gundagai - NRMA platinum saved me $2100!! The good new was that it cost me $150 for a new sensor to get fitted and LR also replaced my compressor for free under an outstanding voluntary recall campaign - the car was 10 years old!!
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    Oztourer brings up a excellent note, always and I mean always use an axle stand on any air suspension vehicle while under it, regardless if its all working correctly or not, while I do it second nature, others might not....

    This happened to my bro inlaw a while back, his mates Discovery 4 had an issue and on the side of the road they were under the vehicle, I pointed out the potential for disaster and he admitted it didnt even cross their minds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grentarc View Post
    When I installed my new compressor, I watched the temperature through my IID Tool of its first run - my reservoir and springs were all empty at this time - it got to 117?C by the time it got the D4 up to normal height and the reservoir up to pressure. This took about 5 minutes in total.
    If a compressor is older, the plastic cover is filled with mud/dirt/sand and the inlet filter hasn't ever been cleaned (or replaced with a better, serviceable filter like I have) then it is going to take longer to build up pressure, have less cooling capacity and therefore more likely to hit thermal cut out.
    Sorry to resurrect this old post, but I've just had my compressor fail in my disco 3. I'm in the process of getting a replacement sent over from the UK. In your post you said you have replaced the inlet filter with a serviceable one. I was wondering what you have used? As I searched and can't find anything about servicing the factory inlet filter. Any help would be much appreciated. Thank Peter

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    Hi Peter,
    I fitted this air compressor filter which has a 3/8 male BSP thread, and attached is an 8mm push fit to 3/8 female adapter. The air filter elements are replaceable paper ones used on a lot of small workshop compressors, and cost about $1 each online. The whole cost I think was under $15 and as you can see on one of the photos, not a speck of dust on the clean side of the filter, unlike on my OE one.
    - Justin
    Selling soon - MY10 D4 3.0 TDV6 SE with E-Diff & LLAMS, 265/65R18 Maxxis Razr A/T
    Moved into MY12 L322 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography
    VK2HFJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grentarc View Post
    Hi Peter,
    I fitted this air compressor filter which has a 3/8 male BSP thread, and attached is an 8mm push fit to 3/8 female adapter. The air filter elements are replaceable paper ones used on a lot of small workshop compressors, and cost about $1 each online. The whole cost I think was under $15 and as you can see on one of the photos, not a speck of dust on the clean side of the filter, unlike on my OE one.
    Thanks Justin, for the very quick response and photo's. That looks like a great replacement and easy to service, unlike the factory filter. I'll track down the required parts and install ready for the new compressor. Thanks again. Peter

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