Thread: 7 nights in Alice Springs - EPB Failure

Originally Posted by kenl

As someone who never ever uses the park brake I wonder if I should simply remove the shoes?

What if you have to park on a hill? You should always select neutral and apply the handbrake then put into park so as to not put load on the transmission.
Cheers
Scott.

I am not going to use the EPB in remote areas any more and in fact I wonder when it is really ever needed. If the vehicle is in Park is that good enough? Does parking on a hill really make it difficult to get out of Park?

To answer Perhdisco, I always disengage the brake before driving off and have never used the drive through function.

Originally Posted by Mike57

I am not going to use the EPB in remote areas any more and in fact I wonder when it is really ever needed. If the vehicle is in Park is that good enough? Does parking on a hill really make it difficult to get out of Park?

On the 6 speed it makes quite an unpleasant thud and takes a lot of force on the stick to release Park so clearly not desirable. God (please reveal yourself) knows how the rotary button works on the D4?

My goal is to use the EPB sparingly when I have to just to keep internals moving.

Always try and rest the wheels on a curb etc. where I can.

Off-road things tend to stay stopped pretty easy in most situations.

Originally Posted by PerthDisco

On the 6 speed it makes quite an unpleasant thud and takes a lot of force on the stick to release Park so clearly not desirable. God (please reveal yourself) knows how the rotary button works on the D4?

My goal is to use the EPB sparingly when I have to just to keep internals moving.

Always try and rest the wheels on a curb etc. where I can.

Off-road things tend to stay stopped pretty easy in most situations.

On most autos the parking pawl is a simple toothed wheel and pin(similar to attahed photo), so under load they can take a little bit of force to release hence the thud.
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Praise the lord, as he is here. Exactly, thus the parking pawl arrangement has zero impact on the life of the tranny. It's a very mechanical arrangement and simply requires an element of mechanical effort to disengage.

On the 6 speed it feel like you are manually ripping the pawl out with the pressure on the shifter but I wonder, oh wise one, how the rotary knob works on the newer cars. Is it a motorised process (another thing to go wrong)?

Originally Posted by DiscoJeffster

Praise the lord, as he is here. Exactly, thus the parking pawl arrangement has zero impact on the life of the tranny. It's a very mechanical arrangement and simply requires an element of mechanical effort to disengage.

And quite common when used primarily to hold the vehicle is for this small casting to break...

Releasing the vehicle and or letting broken fragments roll around doing damage in the transmission.

People who rely on the “P” position (Parking Pawl) are doing the transmission no favours... are breaking the law... and are foolish

Using the Parking Pawl to hold the vehicle also leaves all the internals of the transmission loaded up, not good for the transmission as this can increase wear.

Originally Posted by PerthDisco

On the 6 speed it feel like you are manually ripping the pawl out with the pressure on the shifter but I wonder, oh wise one, how the rotary knob works on the newer cars. Is it a motorised process (another thing to go wrong)?

Solenoid driven.. and engages EPB automatically before engaging P