Thread: Tow truck

I have a 2009 d4 3.0, owned sinced new, renewed oil and filters as per servicing schedule. How can I proactively check this crank bearing?

Well now to the research side
1. How many of these incidents have their been?
2. Age and kilometres
3. Contributing factors ie service history,vehicle use (towing, off road usage etc)
4. Accessories fitted ( bullbar, winch, snorkel etc)
5. Warranty/non warranty
6. Final outcome

I would like to see just where this will go and please Mo conjecture, just facts

Originally Posted by Bobc163

Well now to the research side
1. How many of these incidents have their been?
2. Age and kilometres
3. Contributing factors ie service history,vehicle use (towing, off road usage etc)
4. Accessories fitted ( bullbar, winch, snorkel etc)
5. Warranty/non warranty
6. Final outcome

I would like to see just where this will go and please Mo conjecture, just facts

Unfortunately getting comprehensive data like this is pretty near impossible unless Landrover hands over all the data from it's records regarding this issue.

Originally Posted by trout1105

Unfortunately getting comprehensive data like this is pretty near impossible unless Landrover hands over all the data from it's records regarding this issue.

I just want hear from members as I know jlra will not make this data available :@

There have been some on here but not so much bearing failure .
A lot to do with the timing cover failure .
There have been a few that have replaced motor`s .
Might pay to start a new thread to to find the answer`s to your question .
I know some have tried to approach LR for cost with out success .
Just be careful not to name and shame on here or you will fall foul of admin

Originally Posted by Tombie

Scarry, the OPs vehicle is 2012...

Not a good thing to happen at all, I’m sure it’s very stressful.

This is one of the reasons I keep going to the dealers.

I was talking about the vehicle in the link,not the OP vehicle

My bad explanation probably....

Originally Posted by Bobc163

Well now to the research side
1. How many of these incidents have their been?
2. Age and kilometres
3. Contributing factors ie service history,vehicle use (towing, off road usage etc)
4. Accessories fitted ( bullbar, winch, snorkel etc)
5. Warranty/non warranty
6. Final outcome

I would like to see just where this will go and please Mo conjecture, just facts

Yes, very important to consider full picture and something never really elaborated on when things go bang. This must also be LR’s nightmare considering the myriad ways owners love to tinker with their cars.

And don’t forget also for this list, as in the OP case, if a performance enhancement ‘tune’ has been added. For the life of me with so much power on tap with the new 3.0D compared to the 2.7D (which I find quite ok) I can not understand doing this which seems like playing with fire and no question the manufacturer would run away. They play the averages game in setting it up for good reason to account for crap fuel, blocked filters, overloading, Sahara Desert heat, partially blocked radiators etc etc.

Through operating marine diesel engines of the 70s and 80s (270hp out of 7 litres and 800kg) through to today’s models (400hp out of 5 litres and 500 kg) I explain to people to consider them as hand grenades with the pin removed. There is no room for error with the slightest overheat or glitch, they will self destruct instantaneously. They are engineering marvels but highly strung.

People still think diesels are like the old tractor in the paddock.

Considering this, if the failure rate is (only) 1.3% this to me seems to account for some element of abuse/ modification and/or a friday motor factor and / or bad batch. Plenty of evidence exists of long lived engines. Typically an inherent manufacturing error should go pop in the warranty period. (excepting the well understood oil pump cover on the pre MY08 2.7D issue). To me bearing failure after 100,000km is hard to make sense of as a manufacturer error as the engine has done a zillion rotations by then. It would however suggest accelerated wear and tear as a possible explanation.

Once you modify the car you now have the pin out of the grenade and one finger on the lever while balancing on a slippery log.

On the bright side, still less chance then us humans have of contracting some unpleasant life threatening problem!

(Nevertheless my heart bleeds for anyone who has this problem no matter the cause)

For some reason the incidence of failures in South Africa is proportionally higher than in Australia - and from some reading on the forums there I gather they have fuel quality choices as well? Which *may* have an influence on Oil life/quality. It may also be batch production, where larger volumes of the engine batch made it to one country or another...

Whilst there have been a few cases of engine failure in Australia it appears to be significantly lower than South Africa.

I’d recommend the OP has his oil drained, sends it away for comprehensive analysis and has a look to see how it comes back.

Depending on level of tune this may have had some impact.

All the best... and be aware LRA monitor this forum actively- so any modifications you have performed and noted on here will be known...