Thread: Can a Disco 4 tow a van with 350kg ball weight... I think not fit for purpose..

Just added my front and rear Max alowable Axle weights for my RRS and they came to 110Kg more than the GVM , go figure .

Originally Posted by Fatso

Just added my front and rear Axle weights for my RRS and they came to 110Kg more than the GVM , go figure .

Suggests an aptly named moniker? Huston, we have a problem!

My manual says don't add the from and rear axle maximums as they don't total the GVW, I assume because it's unlikely you would ever reach both at the same time.

Originally Posted by weeds

GVM..GVW is your max weight regardless of how you interpret the manual.

I don’t believe you can just tag 150kg into your GVM, think owners convince themself this is the case to come under.

IF you load any landrover up to its max NET over TARE then you still have 150KG to go before you hit GVM. That 150kg is where the "free" 150KG comes from.

since the SII landrover has always done this as a method of getting around UK taxes. same reason as to why the original landies only had 2.248/2.249 l engines marketed as 2.25l instead of the 4.2's the toyotas were getting... TAX...

Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

IF you load any landrover up to its max NET over TARE then you still have 150KG to go before you hit GVM. That 150kg is where the "free" 150KG comes from.

since the SII landrover has always done this as a method of getting around UK taxes. same reason as to why the original landies only had 2.248/2.249 l engines marketed as 2.25l instead of the 4.2's the toyotas were getting... TAX...

I think that’s what’s confusing everybody

The only weights one needs to bother about is

GVM
Axle weights

If towing
TBW
ATM
GCM

Tare, net, home scales weighing, spreadsheets are a irrelevant.....

Forget the 150kg references

Just load up, go to weigh bridge.....if over st least you know and you can make a call from there. My previous combinations only exceeded by a small amount....I was happy to continue without adjustment

Originally Posted by Fatso

Just added my front and rear Axle weights for my RRS and they came to 110Kg more than the GVM , go figure .

If you mean maximum allowable axle weights, that is not uncommon. It is one easy way to get GVM increases in Jap 4wds. Add the axle weights together and call it the new GVM. Used to get it done regularly (and engineered) when I was in the mining game. The only proviso was heavy duty rear springs and a sticker to state that any towed trailer required brakes.

Originally Posted by weeds

GVM..GVW is your max weight regardless of how you interpret the manual.

I don’t believe you can just tag 150kg into your GVM, think owners convince themself this is the case to come under.

The Defender manual I excerpted before says at GVW you have 150kg of towball weight. What's confusing about that?
If you go over 150 you have to lighten the GVW by the extra.
Seems pretty straightforward to me.
Am I wrong?

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

The Defender manual I excerpted before says at GVW you have 150kg of towball weight. What's confusing about that?
If you go over 150 you have to lighten the GVW by the extra.
Seems pretty straightforward to me.
Am I wrong?

Doesn’t confused me, I just look at GVW or GVM, don’t really care what included as it the maximum you can go to.

LandRover are the only ones that mention it.....and I don’t see why they need to and seems to create confusion. They are saying here is your GVM and we assume you’re towing so we have factored in 150kg.....wonder how they come about 150kg

Much easier to measure you TBW and subtract fro vehicle GVM, pretty simple.

So I’d ignore, load up, and go to the a weigh bridge.