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    Lug nut corrosion

    G'day all,

    Did an EPB adjustment today (first time). These are standard LR 19" wheels with standard lug nuts.

    I flushed the brakes about 8 months ago. At the time I brushed all the nuts down, cleaned them up and put them back on with the torque wrench. Some of them were so tight I had to stand and bounce on the bar to get them loose.

    Fast forward 8 months and I still needed a lot of pressure with a large breaker bar to get them loose (although no way as much as last time). There is a not inconsiderable amount of corrosion between the body of the nut and the alloys. I cleaned up the nuts and holes, and this time put them back with a grease coating on both (not on the studs or threads though).

    I didn't lubricate or otherwise treat them last time. This time I've used a thin smear of heavy grease. Is there something I should be using (like Penetrox or something like that) ? They were absolutely tightened to 140NM last time, but I suspect the corrosion was adding significant extra breakaway torque.

    I also did the first oil change with the Stahlbus valve which I fitted last time. I'm happy with that purchase.

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    Stahlbus makes it so damn easy hey!

    Bit of anti-seize on the threads, but of Inox spray on the outside..

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    Quote Originally Posted by BradC View Post
    G'day all,

    Did an EPB adjustment today (first time). These are standard LR 19" wheels with standard lug nuts.

    I flushed the brakes about 8 months ago. At the time I brushed all the nuts down, cleaned them up and put them back on with the torque wrench. Some of them were so tight I had to stand and bounce on the bar to get them loose.

    Fast forward 8 months and I still needed a lot of pressure with a large breaker bar to get them loose (although no way as much as last time). There is a not inconsiderable amount of corrosion between the body of the nut and the alloys. I cleaned up the nuts and holes, and this time put them back with a grease coating on both (not on the studs or threads though).

    I didn't lubricate or otherwise treat them last time. This time I've used a thin smear of heavy grease. Is there something I should be using (like Penetrox or something like that) ? They were absolutely tightened to 140NM last time, but I suspect the corrosion was adding significant extra breakaway torque.

    I also did the first oil change with the Stahlbus valve which I fitted last time. I'm happy with that purchase.
    Use nickel anti-seize on the threads. DO NOT use copper anti-seize or grease near aluminium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbjorn View Post
    Use nickel anti-seize on the threads. DO NOT use copper anti-seize or grease near aluminium.
    I didn't put anything on the threads. I put a heavy petroleum based grease on the outside of the nut where it contacts the alloy, and under the captive washer on the nut.

    Can I clarify, are you saying don't use "copper anti-seize" or "grease", or are you saying don't use "copper anti-seize or grease" as in a copper laden grease? I understand the dissimilar metals issue and have no intention of using copper. I just wanted to make sure in using a petroleum based grease I hadn't committed some form of cardinal sin.

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    He means anything containing Cu.

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    I use this one previously recommended on here: Molytec Nickel Anti-Seize Lubricant Grease 225g Tube - M891 | eBay

    and also between my Compomotive alloys and hubs so they come off easily.

    Also comes in a tin with a brush if that suits better. Nickel Anti-Seize Lubricant Grease 225g Brush Top Tin Molytec- M831 | eBay

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    I use Nickel anti seize on mine. Never a problem loosening them.
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    Nickel antiseize on the threads and the mating surface where the wheel centre sits on the hub. I use this approach on all my vehicles and trailers. Never had a problem.
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    Ive actually managed to break / distort the outer stainless cover off some of the genuine lug nuts when using a torque wrench to 140Nm. I ordered a new set of 4 to replace. Use nickel antiseize on the studs, and i dont use a torque wrench now, het them started by hand, then a rattle gun to seat the wheel and a long handled breaker bar to tighten all lug nuts in the standard star pattern once the wheels are back on the ground. Never had a problem since.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric SDV6SE View Post
    Ive actually managed to break / distort the outer stainless cover off some of the genuine lug nuts when using a torque wrench to 140Nm. I ordered a new set of 4 to replace. Use nickel antiseize on the studs, and i dont use a torque wrench now, het them started by hand, then a rattle gun to seat the wheel and a long handled breaker bar to tighten all lug nuts in the standard star pattern once the wheels are back on the ground. Never had a problem since.
    Using a 6 point socket you won’t distort anything.

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