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    Pulling my hair out - purchasing a Disco4

    I've been researching a Disco4 for a few weeks now as a potential new replacement for my 2007 Pajero.
    I was firstly put off by the sand performance (but have now worked out that I can put on 18's with BFG's) and their reputation of poor reliability (mostly heresay from non Disco/Toyota LC200 owners I see).

    I'm in Perth but not limiting my purchase to WA. I'm looking for a 2011 - 2016 Disco4 SDV6/TDV6 3.0.
    I'm only looking at HSE's as these have the 3/4 zone AC that goes right the 3rd row. This is critical for my purchase with a growing family of 6 that uses the 3rd row seats regularly in Perth heat.

    What's doing my head is the consideration of 6spd auto vs 8spd auto (post 2013) and SDV6 vs TDV6 and the many other options such as e-diffs etc.

    Coming from a well kitted out Pajero I'm leaning towards a Disco4 with all of the fruit (read ARB bullbar, winch, spotties, snorkel, duel batteries, awning etc). But there are very few on the market that are already kitted out.
    The few that are kitted out have ~180K km's on them and are circa 2010/11 with the 6spd auto.

    I'm familiar with the saying but the newest iteration you can afford with lowest km etc.
    But, if I buy a 2013-2015 8spd auto say with low km's, I'd have to spend another $15K or so to to get it to the specs above.

    Realistically though, the aftermarket fruit I definitely need, as opposed to nice to have, are duel batteries to run the fridge, red arc tow pro and a roof rack.

    I've always had a bullbar for safety for travelling but notice the majority on the market don't have one on them.

    I think I'm just going round in circles in my head with 6spd vs 8sp, SDV6 vs TDV6, accessories vs no accessories, high km's vs low km's etc etc

    Any feedback appreciated as I'm sure many of you went through similar torment along your path to purchasing a Disco4.

    cheers

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    Yes, I posted a similar query about 2 years ago and had some very helpful responses prior to purchasing my D4 - perhaps do a search as it covered some of the issues you seem to be asking about. Thereís also a comprehensive sticky that covers a lot of info.

    Re the 4 zone aircon, thatís not just the HSEs as itís also an option on the TDV6 and SE, so you do find them with it. Itíll either be evident from the spec or the photos - look for vents in the C pillar, controls in the roof or an additional button on the dash next to the other HVAC controls.

    Itís generally acknowledged that the 3.0 litre / 8 speed combo is the best one - itís a superb driveline, so thatís post 2012 (I think). Also, post 2012 ďTDV6Ē is a model designation - all SEs and HSEs are SDV6.

    I bought a HSE but if I did it again I probably wouldnít bother - the main difference was the arm rests on the seats, which I find it practice give me a back ache, so I donít use them now anyway.

    I wouldnít bother with a bullbar (but I acknowledge thatís a contentious topic) and if you are using six seats I donít know where your fridge is going to go - loose in the back next to one of the kids? We always use three rows - so the kids arenít bumping elbows - and I do put soft bags in the back with the youngest, but Iíd hesitate to put anything heavy or hard back there, and Iíve never worked out or seen a barrier system that Iíd be comfortable having a kid sitting next to.

    The eDiff would be a nice to have, but again, it was an option and not a lot have it. Thereís also an argument that the later D4s donít need it because of the tweaks made to the traction controls.

    I will say though that if you want to drive the family a long way in one day thereís few better ways of doing it than in a D4.
    Arapiles
    2014 D4 HSE

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    I believe there's a 2016 with most of what you want advertised on here for 53 grand. Not sure if TDV6 or the other. I've got a 2016 TDV6 and had probs. on sand..... then someone said to turn off the DSC as the systems fought each other if you didn't. Worked well after that but those 19" are a problem so will change to 18" rims and tyres once I've worn out the Maxxis 980s which I don't like..... got a thread about them on here.
    Couldn't see the point of most of the gadgets on an HSE when I was in the market so went for the bog standard model and find it a great ride and apart from that damn EPB haven't had any problems.
    AlanH.

    PS. Here's tip.... rock crawl will get you out of a lot of stuff. Saved us at Carawine Gorge in the shale there and van on the back with all the "Built up not bought, lifted and locked" lot looking on hoping I'd get bogged.

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    Iíve put my D4 through its paces, sure some people have done much tougher stuff but Iíve certainly tested it beyond most and not once has it faulted without having the rear e-diff so unless you are seriously into your off-roading I wouldnít narrow your focus to only cars with this as there arenít many.

    I personally have a 2.7l 6speed and have never driven the 8 speed so canít give a comparison but I tow a 3.2T caravan without any dramas whatsoever. So Iím sure the newer version is better but Iíd argue itís definitely not NEEDED.

    I have 140k on the clock but assume that is low for its age?!
    2011 Fuji White D4 w/ facelift front and tail lights, 2016 front bumper and grill.
    Black Pack interior trim - CB - Waeco Fridge - 3 Way Lift Rods - Rock Sliders - Pirelli ATR Plus 265/60/18. Nanocom Evo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukeis View Post
    Iíve put my D4 through its paces, sure some people have done much tougher stuff but Iíve certainly tested it beyond most and not once has it faulted without having the rear e-diff so unless you are seriously into your off-roading I wouldnít narrow your focus to only cars with this as there arenít many.

    I personally have a 2.7l 6speed and have never driven the 8 speed so canít give a comparison but I tow a 3.2T caravan without any dramas whatsoever. So Iím sure the newer version is better but Iíd argue itís definitely not NEEDED.

    I have 140k on the clock but assume that is low for its age?
    !

    My 2010 2.7 is 250+K km, and I'm sure there are some with more out there. I've just finished towing a 3.5T block of flats 21K km around the northern half of this country and survived, albeit with a couple of replacement items needed en route
    Towtug Apr 19 D4 MY10 2.7 6 speed with LLAMS, long range tank and other goodies - for towing "The Brick"
    Bessie Aug 13 MY95 RRC LSE Vogue SoftDash with MY99 TD5 and 4HP24 transplant - in the LR garage since Apr 18
    SADLY SOLD Disco Dan MY04 D2a TD5 auto Classic Nov 11 - Jun 19

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    Rear AC was available in other models,mine has it with controls,evaporator coil,in the rear.

    It ended up a no cost option,as we had signed up for the vehicle,then they discovered it had it and wanted us to pay extra cost.

    No, we said, as its an option we wouldn't want,as the kids had already flown the coop.

    Thats fine they said.

    FWIW,mine has just clicked over 80 000k's.
    paul

    D4 MY12 white,2.7(with a few more killer wasps) rear air,e diff,xenons,arb bar,7 seat ,18" bfg KO2

    2009 Defender 110 (son's)ARB
    bar,snorkle,rocksliders,rack,KM2's,BAS chip, always needs a wash

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    IMHO: 3.0l sdv6 in se or hse spec dont matter. Def 8spd if you can find one, but the 6spd is also fine, the ratios have been well sorted, the 8spd gets better economy.

    E diffs neither here or there, i wouldn't lose sleep over that if it came down to it.

    As long as looked after (read service history available) should be ok.

    There is a thread on here about the D4 with a supercharged petrol v6, mated to an 8 spd....that would be my pick...

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    I owned a 2010 2.7TDV6 no ediff 6 speed at the same time as driving a 2012 pajero for my forestry work with a 2inch lift and cooper stx tyres. The paj was honest but wouldn't hold a candle to the D4 in any single way. Period.
    Don't overthink it. Get the price right and you're going to be in love with whatever D4 you end up with.
    Now 2010 RRS TDV8 ('Roger' - Moore I assume...)
    Then 2010 D4 2.7 TDV6 ('Jumbo')
    First love 2002 D2 TD5 ('Disco Stu')

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    Thanks for the feedback already.
    You're right, that I'm probably overthinking it. I certainly understand the e-diff is not an absolute requirement.
    I think the 4 zone aircon to the 3rd rows is a definite for me though, which limits me to a HSE or one of the few base models of SEs' that have chosen that option (very few that I can see). That one for sale for 53k on this site looks very nice but doesn't have the air to the 3rd zone/pillar.

    Would anyone be concerned with 185K on the 3.0L motor? If it was a tojo I wouldn't be concerned as they run for 300,400,500K etc but I don't have a feel for the longevity of the Disco 3L.
    In 5 years time I would have put another 100K on the clock so a 185K today would be 285K in 5 years time for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gavinwibrow View Post
    My 2010 2.7 is 250+K km, and I'm sure there are some with more out there. I've just finished towing a 3.5T block of flats 21K km around the northern half of this country and survived, albeit with a couple of replacement items needed en route
    270K km on my D4 3.0L HSE.

    It goes in next week though as itís leaking more oil than the Exxon Valdez. I look forward to reporting on every place itís weeping from.
    2010 TDV6 3.0L Discovery 4 HSE
    2007 Audi RS4 (B7)

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