Thread: New car can it keep up

Originally Posted by INter674

Turn assist...seems like an excuse for a lack of steering lock!

I would hate to use it on steep switch backs eg in Vic High Country esp if there's snow or mud about🤤

And would be hard on the rear tyres too ....think I would turn it off.

I loved turning brakes on tractors, and then the electronic turning assist versions when they came out, but it was most always on relatively level ground, too.

Originally Posted by INter674

Turn assist...seems like an excuse for a lack of steering lock!

Same steering lock as D3/4,which is better than D2 from memory.

I have seen it operate in sand,it works well.

Mmm not so sure about it being the same steering lock..our D4 easily out manouvers mate's 200s..which is longer ..so that's a factor to consider. But the D4 def turns a lot tighter than mate's Cruiser.

Re tractor brakes...yes fine on a 2wd but very hard on a 4wd tractor and wears out the brake discs/frictions real fast😐. 2wd technique is best to lock the inside wheel..which is almost impossible on a 4wd. I have never used turn brakes on our tractors.. which in any event have mental steering lock so they are not really needed.

Well you might be right Paul. Depending on which specs you believe.. some say 11.8m turning circle for both 200s and D4. Others say 11.4 D4 and 12.6 for 200s.

Yes agree turn assist would be good on sand.

Interesting how Toyota are building in such tech nowadays..wonder how that goes with the oft claim that anyone anywhere can fix a Toyota whereas LRs have a lot to go wrong...as they say☺

Originally Posted by INter674

Well you might be right Paul. Depending on which specs you believe.. some say 11.8m turning circle for both 200s and D4. Others say 11.4 D4 and 12.6 for 200s.

Yes agree turn assist would be good on sand.

Interesting how Toyota are building in such tech nowadays..wonder how that goes with the oft claim that anyone anywhere can fix a Toyota whereas LRs have a lot to go wrong...as they say☺

Correct,there are different figures,but Land Rover site says 11.45m,kerb to kerb,D4
Toyota site says 11.8m kerb to kerb,200

One site said 11.8 for both...

So i stand to be corrected.
Probably 350mm difference
If published manufacturer specs are correct.

Now that I have stopped laughing, it will easily out perform any Nissan Patrol. Things I am doing / going to do, good roof rack, rear wheel carrier to get the spare up from under and fit a long range tank. LLAMS control unit, Gap II tool, triple batteries and a winch. The only other thing you may need is appropriate tyres. Bull bar if it does not have one, cb etc.
Standard vs Standard it will beat a Nissan of any type off road.
You need to compare apples with apples though.
If you want something hard core maybe a Defender.
My son now has my Defender and I have a D4. I love both but they are chalk and cheese. The Defender is a lot better off road as such, but the D4 is much more comfortable.
We used to get the same bull when we bought the Defender, but the Defender was always the 4x4 that went the furthermost without getting stuck.
But like any 4x4 it will be how you drive it.

Originally Posted by INter674

Re tractor brakes...yes fine on a 2wd but very hard on a 4wd tractor and wears out the brake discs/frictions real fast

My FWA tractor disengages the front drive clutch if 1 brake pedal is used.

We went from a 4.8 patrol to a Disco 3 ,having 4 kids you cant fit them in a Patrol without knees under chins now no issue.
Couldnt go past a fuel stop with out stopping now weeks apart
Off road another world away , just learn how it works and you will be amazed with the handling and ability to go where you wont think it can
then the towing of the van awesome ride just cruises along
Best thing we have bought