Is my 2.7 shagged?

Ranga, you're not very far from British Offroad.

They are the best...no kidding.

Organise for them to look for you.

They have a yard full of cars and parts and donors everywhere.

Land Rover parts and servicing specialists - British Off Road - Sunshine Coast

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Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

Ranga, you're not very far from British Offroad

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A mate I went to school with and lived with after works for them ;)

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Originally Posted by Ranga

I know it's probably hard to diagnose an engine fault over the internet without much confidence, but here goes...

Basically it was running fine with about 230,000 kms on the clock. Previous owner was driving it and it starting making a horrible engine noise and stalled. They managed to restart it briefly before shutting it down. It's sat unused for about 6 months.

Today, a mechanic (non-LR) tried to do a quick diagnosis. They managed to get it started after turning it over for about 10 seconds, but it sounded sick (a bit of a knocking and scraping sound and not idling right at all) . Had his foot to the floor, but before too long it stalled. I wasn't too keen on starting it at all, so didn't try again. I thought the fact that it actually did start might be promising, but as per my typical motto, "expect the worst and hope for the best". So, I'm expecting the motor's shagged and needs replacing.

Apparently 2 common failures are the oil pump/timing belt or broken crankshaft. Would either of these allow it to still start? Anyone game to have a stab at likely problem/s, and repair options/costs? At best this might see the road again, at worst it will be broken and parts sold (or sold as is) to try and recover some costs.

Finally, any decent mobile mechanics Brisbane north side that would be able to come and have a gander?

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Hi Ranga, Sorry to hear about your problems. Read all the posts, sounds messy.
If it was mine I would wait till after 10 am then call MR Automotive and ask to leave a message for Wayne to contact you, workshop foreman, then explain your problem to him.
I have always found him helpfull.
Best of luck. Let me know if you need help moving it.
Henry

Hypothetically assuming the belts are original and completely flogged out could the rear belt on the HP fuel pump slip and cause rough running etc etc?

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Originally Posted by PerthDisco

Hypothetically assuming the belts are original and completely flogged out could the rear belt on the HP fuel pump slip and cause rough running etc etc?

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Anything is possible. This is why following a methodical approach to diagnosis is important. We could write off a lot of the diagnosis time if we could here it running/turning over etc.

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Originally Posted by PerthDisco

Hypothetically assuming the belts are original and completely flogged out could the rear belt on the HP fuel pump slip and cause rough running etc etc?

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more likely tensioner pulley let go letting the cam belt slip a few teeth, which was the reason for my earlier post suggesting removal of cover and having a look

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Originally Posted by DiscoJeffster

Anything is possible. This is why following a methodical approach to diagnosis is important. We could write off a lot of the diagnosis time if we could here it running/turning over etc.

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I wouldn't choose to do that in this case as .
1 likely to cause even more damage
2 hard to diagnose on a vid clip
3 better to have a look, it doesn't take long to get the cover off

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Originally Posted by discorevy

more likely tensioner pulley let go letting the cam belt slip a few teeth, which was the reason for my earlier post suggesting removal of cover and having a look



I wouldn't choose to do that in this case as .
1 likely to cause even more damage
2 hard to diagnose on a vid clip
3 better to have a look, it doesn't take long to get the cover off

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Yeah you kind of missed what I was getting at. It’s already been run and that was the opportunity to take a video.
There are a million things to check, but many could be discounted by hearing it saving time. Without that then you have to start from square one and it’s impossible to diagnose some issues without turning over the engine at some point.

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Originally Posted by DiscoJeffster

Anything is possible. This is why following a methodical approach to diagnosis is important. We could write off a lot of the diagnosis time if we could here it running/turning over etc.

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Originally Posted by DiscoJeffster

Yeah you kind of missed what I was getting at. It’s already been run and that was the opportunity to take a video.
There are a million things to check, but many could be discounted by hearing it saving time. Without that then you have to start from square one and it’s impossible to diagnose some issues without turning over the engine at some point.

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probably missed what you were getting at because of your wording .
Also wasn't aware you have heard lots of these with broken tensioners , cranks to be able to give a diagnosis on a vid clip.

I wouldn't have the confidence , but I'm only a mechanic

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Originally Posted by discorevy

probably missed what you were getting at because of your wording .
Also wasn't aware you have heard lots of these with broken tensioners , cranks to be able to give a diagnosis on a vid clip.

I wouldn't have the confidence , but I'm only a mechanic

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This conversation has gone straight to installing a new engine for what could be a simpler issue. At this point the video would be better than what we have at this point which is nothing. You’re right though, without being in person it’s mostly impossible.

Won't be the crank.
Starter motor turns back of crank and cams run off the front of crank . If crank was snapped it wouldn't run . Period..