Thread: Emergency air up instructions

Just to make myself clear, I dont usually take a tank with me, as i can usually guess how much air I have in my tyres. When it came to pumping up air bags I was not sure, so I connected the compressor via a tank I have at home which runs my rattle guns, spray paint etc. I use my VLAiR compressor for this as well. Now I know that the on board compressor pumps in excess of 200psi I wont bother with the tank. It was only used for "insurance" purposes.

Originally Posted by Bulletman

Aren't we getting away from the remote travel concept of using items you will already have ... ie a tyre compressor. If you are going to start carrying bottles and tanks may as well take a complete suspension system ... and a trailer for all the other parts and tools.

I hope to get onto this in the next week or so , my mate does alot of work on hinaughtics and he has been away and was run things past him incase he has a different idea or knows of better components

Bulletman

Yes..and no..looks like using an on board comp might be a struggle and possibly quite slow to get you out of trouble. We carry extinguishers so I dont think another like container is a big ask to carry esp if it does the job in seconds rather than hours☺

Anywho...just a thought...

Originally Posted by INter674

Yes..and no..looks like using an on board comp might be a struggle and possibly quite slow to get you out of trouble. We carry extinguishers so I dont think another like container is a big ask to carry esp if it does the job in seconds rather than hours☺

Anywho...just a thought...

How many fire extinguishers worth of air are you going to have to carry to get all four airbags up to off road height? I would suggest more than one.

Garry

Originally Posted by 101RRS

How many fire extinguishers worth of air are you going to have to carry to get all four airbags up to off road height? I would suggest more than one.

Garry

Not sure..just thinking out aloud really..but there was just enuf air in one old ext to inflate a tyre on our old D1 - fitted with an AC air pump that had failed but luckily the tank was full at the time. I'd imagine a CO2 gas bottle would have far more in it than an old copper f ext pumped up to say 160psi. I believe car makers are supplying a gas/sealant bottle in place of a whole tyre...so that device must have a reasonable pressure/volume within?

Anyhow...I'll watch this thread with interest to see how the install goes.

Originally Posted by DiscoDB

I could be totally wrong here.....

I would have thought the front and rear air connectors (which go into the rear airbags and front valve block and look to be same) are the 3699 fitting as I believe you need a BSPP (Parallel) connector. Most likely the 3699 06 10 to connect a 6mm OD hose to the 1/8th BSPP thread. The 3609 is for a tapered thread (BSPT).

Ah yes, I think you're right about these connectors - thanks!

Originally Posted by DiscoDB

As the removed air line has a compression fitting, the adaptors (to connect to the hose extension) are then using a brass compression fitting combined with the push fit fittings. The brass fitting accepts the 1/8th BSPP male compression fitting at one end, and then the other end needs to match the push fit adaptor used. An adaptor that accepts the male compression fitting nut at one end and push fit at the other would eliminate the brass fitting - but not sure if you can get this.

Of course this is all just to reuse all of the existing fittings making it easy to remove and revert back later.

Yeah I'd like it to be removable & easily replaceable if possible. I've reread the above a few times and think my novice head follows :0 So the existing LR airline ends have a male 1/8" BSPP connector and we need to convert it to a push fit end for the extension hose.

So do you think the 3636 06 10 will do the job?

EAS 3636.jpg

Although in the GOE doc, a right angle adaptor is used for the rear. Not sure if this is required due to the available space or just the angle the line will go once rerouted. But I can't seem to find a matching product in the catalogue.

And then the 3699 06 10 which has male 1/8" BSPP would screw into the strut/valve block and push fit to the hose?

EAS 3699.jpg

It will be interesting to test this out with my single piston arb. Quite likely it won't work as has been mentioned or at least without jacking up first. But hey, I'd like to try myself! Not keen on carrying extra canisters.

I used a brass union, 1/8 BSP tapered thread to 1/4 flare,and a 2M 1/4 flare flexible line to pressure test an airbag.
The fitting can be angled or straight.
Available at any good Refrigeration wholesaler,Actrol/Reece,Kirby,etc.

Just for confusion - I have read on a few other forums including Disco3.co.uk that the fitting used on the air bags and valve blocks is a Voss 203 quick connect fitting and the thread is M10x1.

LR definitely state it is a Voss fitting and they use 6mm pipe, and Voss only make metric fittings in this type.

It is only on this forum have people been stating it is 1/8th BSPP - which I have also repeated.

Funny how the imperial locations think it is metric and we think it is imperial.

The good news is the Voss fitting once assembled should be self sealing - so should be able to be refitted to a simple union with the right thread size. The seal is formed during the initial installation.

However - in the UK people have been replacing the original LR Voss fitting with a push fit fitting at both the air bag and valve blocks with this fitting:

6mm x M10x1 Metric Thread 80 BAR HP Brass Push Fit Straight Stud Fitting

DISCO3.CO.UK - View topic - Help! Suspension Problem

DISCO3.CO.UK - View topic - Voss connectors

Curious.

I had a quick search and found these:

Land Rover Discovery 4 / LR4 2010-'16 VOSS Suspension Air Line Connector Fitting | eBay

But your find is much cheaper. They don't seem to sell a female one tho, so would have to cut the existing ends off.