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    Quote Originally Posted by DazzaTD5 View Post
    so as a comparison...
    2008 merc ****ter, new engine available and fitted $40K
    2016 D4, no new engines available, when they were quotes $50K

    What was the breakup Parts & labour of the $50k?
    I was hearing/reading middle 20's.

    Supports my suggestion of re-building the engine and using existing fuel pump, turbos etc.
    Why pay for items which are unnecessary (at say, 100-200,000 klms) ?
    Before: Ser 2a LWB, Ser 3 S/W, 1979 RR 2 door, 1981 LR Stage 1 V8 (new), 1985 LR 110 V8 County (new), 2009 RRS TDV8
    Now: MY13 D4 TDV6. "E" rear diff. Cambo's magic Engine & Auto Tune. 1968 Austin 1800 Mk1 auto (my 5th)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Discodicky View Post
    What was the breakup Parts & labour of the $50k?
    I was hearing/reading middle 20's.

    Supports my suggestion of re-building the engine and using existing fuel pump, turbos etc.
    Why pay for items which are unnecessary (at say, 100-200,000 klms) ?
    $25K is a typical used engine swap on a 3.0

    My point really was...
    An old merc van from 2008 you can still get a new engine. Like so many others ford transit, rangers, toyota hilux new engines are still available.
    But a D4 from only 2016 you can't get a new engine.
    Regards
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    Which is a disgrace, I bought a new short crate engine in 2014 , 4.6 V8 to put in my Disco 1
    It is insane you can’t get a 3l , I am still hopeful the engine from the new Ranger/Everest is an option
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    Discovery 4 3.0 HSE MY13 ECB Bull bar, winch, spot lights, aux fuel tank, Kaymar rear bar, duel wheel carriers, 18 tuff ant wheels 265/65/18 BFG KO2's for play

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    Quote Originally Posted by DazzaTD5 View Post
    $25K is a typical used engine swap on a 3.0

    My point really was...
    An old merc van from 2008 you can still get a new engine. Like so many others ford transit, rangers, toyota hilux new engines are still available.
    But a D4 from only 2016 you can't get a new engine.
    And that's the very reason I'm buying a Tojo Prado or maybe something else. Plus just recently I saw a thread where someone was quoted 5K for a new electronic oil sender thing! Surely that can't be right? Please tell me it isn't.
    I've never understood apart from LR (Ford?) engineers loving electronic fancy bits, why an ordinary old fashioned dip stick was got rid of and this replaced it. Nothing dirty about checking oil with one and at least you could see if the oil change you'd paid for had been done when the stealer had had their hands on it.
    Not that I'd let them touch my vehicle unless it was a warranty job so I didn't worry about that anyway.
    AlanH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ATH View Post
    And that's the very reason I'm buying a Tojo Prado or maybe something else. Plus just recently I saw a thread where someone was quoted 5K for a new electronic oil sender thing! Surely that can't be right? Please tell me it isn't.
    It is. The cost is in the fact that half the car needs to be dismantled in order to change it. And I agree, checking the oil is no hazard if you are halfway carefull.* I still curse Ford for removing the dipstick from the autos in the EL Falcon!

    Quote Originally Posted by ATH View Post
    Not that I'd let them touch my vehicle unless it was a warranty job so I didn't worry about that anyway.
    AlanH.
    That going to remain the case with Toyota's fixed price servicing?

    (* Stupid red line. I don't care how the Yanks spell it. )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tins View Post
    (* Stupid red line. I don't care how the Yanks spell it. )
    Nothing to do with Yanks. It only has one L, unless it is "carefully", so be careful.
    There is no eraser on the pencil of life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChookD2 View Post
    Nothing to do with Yanks. It only has one L, unless it is "carefully", so be careful.
    All the 'full words had two Ls when I went to school, and all the old ( pre maybe 1970 ) books I have ( British published ) spell that way. Carefull is another way of saying full of care, just as beautifull is another way of saying full of beauty. It may be old fashioned, but I prefer it.

    EDIT. BTW, which country is responsible for the spell checker used by your browser?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tins View Post
    All the 'full words had two Ls when I went to school, and all the old ( pre maybe 1970 ) books I have ( British published ) spell that way. Carefull is another way of saying full of care, just as beautifull is another way of saying full of beauty. It may be old fashioned, but I prefer it.
    My schooling was late 60s and 70s, always one L when ending with full, e.g. playful, hopeful, etc. Doesn't matter really. I still spell programme the correct way.

    edit: Mine is set to English (Australia).
    There is no eraser on the pencil of life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChookD2 View Post
    My schooling was late 60s and 70s, always one L when ending with full, e.g. playful, hopeful, etc. Doesn't matter really. I still spell programme the correct way.

    edit: Mine is set to English (Australia).
    I was 10 years earlier, but I guess it depends on the school. Programme is an interesting one, as both spellings are accepted, perhaps as the longer version has a formal connotation in the US, where program is far more common. Nobody in Silicon(e) Valley programmes a computer...
    I think we should be gracefull and agree to differ
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    Last from me on this, at least in this engine related thread. I have a collection of books by Terry Pratchett, all of which, bar one, are "Not for sale in the USA or Canada". The one that was destined for US publication has all the spelling edited for that market.
    ​JayTee

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