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    Quote Originally Posted by Discodicky View Post
    T'other day I read on a English Disco facebook site that one contributor reckoned it depended on which production line the engine was assembled.
    One line having a bad reputation for the failures whilst the other had no failures.
    I asked him for more information but so far no response.
    Sounds a bit over the top but stranger things have happened.....
    Windsor or Cleveland block scenario

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    Quote Originally Posted by PerthDisco View Post
    Windsor or Cleveland block scenario
    Sorry but how does two completely different Ford V8 engines sharing a common displacement have any similarity to the same engine supposedly being assembled in two different plants?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryO View Post
    Sorry but how does two completely different Ford V8 engines sharing a common displacement have any similarity to the same engine supposedly being assembled in two different plants?
    Without knowing specifics I remember in my youth the endless discussion on which was the better engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PerthDisco View Post
    Without knowing specifics I remember in my youth the endless discussion on which was the better engine.
    Must check, but I thought the Windsor was 302 cu and the Cleveland 351 cu.
    Not sure if they made a 351 Windsor.
    My '68 'stang which I sold a year or so ago had the 302 Windsor and it was a lovely sweet engine.
    Before: Ser 2a LWB, Ser 3 S/W, 1979 RR 2 door, 1981 LR Stage 1 V8 (new), 1985 LR 110 V8 County (new), 2009 RRS TDV8
    Now: MY13 D4 TDV6. "E" rear diff. Cambo's magic Engine & Auto Tune. 1968 Austin 1800 Mk1 auto (my 5th)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Discodicky View Post
    Must check, but I thought the Windsor was 302 cu and the Cleveland 351 cu.
    Not sure if they made a 351 Windsor.
    My '68 'stang which I sold a year or so ago had the 302 Windsor and it was a lovely sweet engine.
    Both the Windsor and Cleveland came in 302 and 351 variations.

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    I always thought Windsor and Cleveland only made the blocks for Ford in different factories not the complete engine hence the subtle nuance. Learn something new every day.

    Topical since the 2.7 and 3.0 are Ford family engines also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PerthDisco View Post
    Without knowing specifics I remember in my youth the endless discussion on which was the better engine.
    Yep mate me too...but I don't recall either letting go of the crank regularly. Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoDB View Post
    ...meanwhile back to the OP. D4 3.0 SDV6 catastrophic failure

    So how is that for a coincidence. The mob that sells reconditioned TDV6’s, is also a wrecker, and happens to be who you bought your D4 from - which now has a failed motor. Ouch!

    Is it the original engine?
    Hey Dave

    Whilst I like Ford V8's too (kind of a funny segway), the engine that failed hasn't been 'plucked' yet, so I'm not 100% sure on the engine number. Our pending engine is being removed from the donor car as we speak and we should be back on the road over the next couple of weeks, hopefully. One mandatory 'teardown' item though for our mechanic is to check the engine number stamping on the lower block behind the engine mount/starter area.

    Cheers

    Goldey
    Just arrived: 2012 D4 3.0 HSE, the journey begins again ;-).
    Gone: 98 Disco 300tdi Auto, and some extras

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoDB View Post
    Both the Windsor and Cleveland came in 302 and 351 variations.

    Agreed they both were available in 302 and 351 cubic inch capacity, other trivia, the original Windsor V8 in the early sixties was 221ci, then updated to 260ci in the mid sixties and lastly prior to the release of the 302 in 1968 was the venerable 289 that graced many early Mustangs and other Ford compact cars in both the US and Canada, plus here in Australia with the 1967 XR Falcon, Fairmont and GT models.

    Anyway my apologies for going off track, back to the OP’s original topic.
    Last edited by TerryO; 8th September 2020 at 02:07 AM.
    Cheers,
    Terry

    D1 V8 (Gone)
    D2a HSE V8 (Gone)
    D3 HSE TDV6 (Unfortunately Gone)
    D4 V8

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